Just got in from Batavia... the 213 were fully equipped and acording to the salesman were traded in on a larger unit. One had the holman sticker on it and the other was "cisco" dont know where that is. Holman is a big truck dealer. They do have RV rentals. Not a B+ but the storie is: they`ve got this C thats a forrest river, Chev frame and its 29 foot, equipped 05 model for $37k. Salesman says it was built for their rental fleed as its not got carpet in it but vinyl. I thought that was a good feature as im a tracker-o-dirt. I was leaning toward the 251 T/L but at 45k the forrest river gives ya a little more room, walk around bed, and 8 grand buys alot of gas, i dont care what the price is. I went to buy but balked as they would only give me 6 k for a 03 kia minivan. Their prices are pretty firm.