I do appreciate very much the imput from ya all very much. Being I will be using the rig for full timing I have been kinda thinking about room inside and all. I am also wondering about other brands like Gulf Stream, Coachmen, and still tying to get info about the Holiday Rambler someone menioned having somethng new coming out like these we are chatting about, but cant find anything? The Itasca Cambria is might nice. Guess I need to drive over to Arkansas and check out the Trail Lites as it maybe you get as much for your money with that brand versis any other? Thanks again for suggestions.