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full_mosey
Feb 08, 2014Explorer
Do wets get more WattHours over their useful life? Do you get these WH when you want them? Do wets rob you of the R in RV?
There have been some test results posted that show that AGMs are better whenever higher draws are involved. Noone disputes the superior deep cycle attributes of 6V GC type batteries, until they are asked to run high Watt devices. That is where they hit a wall on run times. What is the trend in RVs telling us; more or less high draw appliances?
I have gone into great detail to explain how my tiny AGMs(see profile) have been working marvelously for me. I have treated them like lab rats and have posted several results of abusing them severely, and yet, they still keep working. They are 4+ and 5+ years old. IOW, I am working on their 5th and 6th years. I can't believe I had any doubts about using them for LTVA dry camping this year! I am at 24 nights right now without shore power.
Last week, while in Quartzsite, I finally upgraded my van's system with a Magnum MMS-1012 inverter/charger. One more test of the Deka 8a24m 79AH AGM was to see how long it could be used in the morning. Keep in mind that this single 53lb battery is running two 12V compressor fridges 24/7 and had been running overnight. I ran a pot of coffee(~625W) for 6min, then ran the inverter MW at ~425W for a total of 20min to reheat coffee and heat food. These runs were spaced over 1:20h. I did finally cause an inverter LVD at the at ~30min mark as I was making a second pot of coffee. How many minutes can I get from a GC pair before inverter LVD?
Following this, I ran the genny and it took the 50A MMS-1012 charger :54 to reach float. Yep, that's 50A into a 5+yo 79AH battery. That frees up time to maximize the R in RV instead of babysitting wets while you tend to their lenghty and error prone charging regimens.
Now, what I would like to see is some performance stats on wet batteries that can approach that on a per pound basis. All we get is a lot of bloviating about how swell 6V GCs are. A pair of 6V GCs weigh 130lbs. Who is going to step forward and tell us how 130lbs of wets are going to permit 53/130 = 2.45, or ~90min of run time on a per lb basis?
Now, if we are talking about running a 5A furnace fan, the GCs win on run time lb per lb. That may be important for some folks.
I am looking forward to replacing my AGMs this summer while in TN so I can get the Deka 31s from Sam's Club. :)
HTH;
There have been some test results posted that show that AGMs are better whenever higher draws are involved. Noone disputes the superior deep cycle attributes of 6V GC type batteries, until they are asked to run high Watt devices. That is where they hit a wall on run times. What is the trend in RVs telling us; more or less high draw appliances?
I have gone into great detail to explain how my tiny AGMs(see profile) have been working marvelously for me. I have treated them like lab rats and have posted several results of abusing them severely, and yet, they still keep working. They are 4+ and 5+ years old. IOW, I am working on their 5th and 6th years. I can't believe I had any doubts about using them for LTVA dry camping this year! I am at 24 nights right now without shore power.
Last week, while in Quartzsite, I finally upgraded my van's system with a Magnum MMS-1012 inverter/charger. One more test of the Deka 8a24m 79AH AGM was to see how long it could be used in the morning. Keep in mind that this single 53lb battery is running two 12V compressor fridges 24/7 and had been running overnight. I ran a pot of coffee(~625W) for 6min, then ran the inverter MW at ~425W for a total of 20min to reheat coffee and heat food. These runs were spaced over 1:20h. I did finally cause an inverter LVD at the at ~30min mark as I was making a second pot of coffee. How many minutes can I get from a GC pair before inverter LVD?
Following this, I ran the genny and it took the 50A MMS-1012 charger :54 to reach float. Yep, that's 50A into a 5+yo 79AH battery. That frees up time to maximize the R in RV instead of babysitting wets while you tend to their lenghty and error prone charging regimens.
Now, what I would like to see is some performance stats on wet batteries that can approach that on a per pound basis. All we get is a lot of bloviating about how swell 6V GCs are. A pair of 6V GCs weigh 130lbs. Who is going to step forward and tell us how 130lbs of wets are going to permit 53/130 = 2.45, or ~90min of run time on a per lb basis?
Now, if we are talking about running a 5A furnace fan, the GCs win on run time lb per lb. That may be important for some folks.
I am looking forward to replacing my AGMs this summer while in TN so I can get the Deka 31s from Sam's Club. :)
HTH;
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