Thanks for ALL the info, my bat wing has been great till I had a loose connector on my cable and when it would wiggle the picture would freeze and I would need to rescan so smart me would get out my wash brush and give it a poke so now even with a tight connection its loose in the wing , so from the post I most likely go with the king and th because of size for one thing I think the bat wing with the adapter on looks like extra junk to pick up a few more stations.
Tha nks again Jim