Well the dealer is in the unit so deep that 6 new tires , a spare and the brake controller as well as some trim repairs cannot be done w/out my participation.NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!We are now looking at a 2014 Fleetwood Tioga Montara. My proposed deal with the trade I had offered before at the same value would net him $64,925 for the 25k model with the V10 engine. Do you think this provides the dealer with a reasonable margin? (he already is 'stealing' my trade)?The second question is which engine on this unit is the best choice- 5.4V8 or the V10?My primary choice for this unit is not to have a dinghy as I would use Enterprise for a longterm stay/sightseeing and do without a Toad. In future I might tow a Jon Boat for Florida park stays and would not need a dinghy.My question is should I buy with the larger motor (work less hard for travel w/o the dinghy (anticipating future towing) or buy with the smaller engine knowing it will 'work harder' when I do tow.We are currently doing about 15k per year with our fiver and it will probably go up when not towing.

I should have asked is there a site that can give you a fair price for a unit like Edmonds for a car?

The second question is which engine on this unit is the best choice- 5.4V8 or the V10?Our 5.4 works great! As a matter of fact I'm surprised how good it works. Having said that it might be working to hard. If had to do over I would go with V10. We leave driveway at 10,380 pounds and no problems and over 100,000 miles but that thing has to be working harder than I would like it to.

NADA has a bluebook for motorhomes but you're probably better off looking for similar rigs on craigslist, ebay, or at ppl motorhomes. You should be able to buy the new one for 22-23% below MSRP.

I checked NADA and with the V-10 option (the only one that affects the price) the MSRP is $75,539.Using 23% of the MSRP it would seem the dealer cost is $58,088 so a deal that nets him 15% would be 8$66,801 and a 10% deal would be $63,897 so I think my offer that nets him $64,925 is fair.The dealer is 'stealing' my '10 Rockwood 8285WS as he will have 14k in it and the NADA low retail is @22,880 and the high is $27,565 so they should make money.It is hard to 'figure' trailer values and I guess the definitive value is really the Manheim auction but us 'civilians' cannot and do not have the expertise to track the prices.I will post to let you know how I make out.

If you're looking at a unit with a $75,000 MSRP, you should be paying somewhere around $55,000 and the dealer is still making money.I'd go for the V10 in that motor home.I wouldn't be concerned with how much the dealer is making, if he's not making enough, there's no deal.It wasn't worth following through on the Coachmen ? It would seem a shame to pass up a good deal for a $1500 or so difference. Naturally you're going to be paying a lot more for a new Fleetwood, or new anything.

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Bumpyroad
Explorer
Mar 22, 2014
Mich F wrote:

It wasn't worth following through on the Coachmen ? It would seem a shame to pass up a good deal for a $1500 or so difference. Naturally you're going to be paying a lot more for a new Fleetwood, or new anything.

sounds sorta like the old, cut off your nose to spite your face. six new tires, brake controller, why not a lifetime supply of free gasoline?
bumpy
Mich_F
Explorer
Mar 22, 2014
If you're looking at a unit with a $75,000 MSRP, you should be paying somewhere around $55,000 and the dealer is still making money.
I'd go for the V10 in that motor home.
I wouldn't be concerned with how much the dealer is making, if he's not making enough, there's no deal.
It wasn't worth following through on the Coachmen ? It would seem a shame to pass up a good deal for a $1500 or so difference. Naturally you're going to be paying a lot more for a new Fleetwood, or new anything.
seb1899
Explorer
Mar 22, 2014
I checked NADA and with the V-10 option (the only one that affects the price) the MSRP is $75,539.

Using 23% of the MSRP it would seem the dealer cost is $58,088 so a deal that nets him 15% would be 8$66,801 and a 10% deal would be $63,897 so I think my offer that nets him $64,925 is fair.

The dealer is 'stealing' my '10 Rockwood 8285WS as he will have 14k in it and the NADA low retail is @22,880 and the high is $27,565 so they should make money.

It is hard to 'figure' trailer values and I guess the definitive value is really the Manheim auction but us 'civilians' cannot and do not have the expertise to track the prices.

I will post to let you know how I make out.
pauldub
Explorer
Mar 22, 2014
NADA has a bluebook for motorhomes but you're probably better off looking for similar rigs on craigslist, ebay, or at ppl motorhomes. You should be able to buy the new one for 22-23% below MSRP.
path1
Explorer
Mar 22, 2014
The second question is which engine on this unit is the best choice- 5.4V8 or the V10?

Our 5.4 works great! As a matter of fact I'm surprised how good it works. Having said that it might be working to hard. If had to do over I would go with V10. We leave driveway at 10,380 pounds and no problems and over 100,000 miles but that thing has to be working harder than I would like it to.
seb1899
Explorer
Mar 21, 2014
I should have asked is there a site that can give you a fair price for a unit like Edmonds for a car?

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