First Ram Promaster van class B

We're talking about Bs in this forum not Cs.

Daydd wrote:
20'-10" is their maximum length.

Here it varies from 20-27ft. longest Motorhome the 27ft ones are on a side by side Dually arrangement.

A similar 3 Litre Diesel in the RWD IVECO Daily becomes a MONSTER. The IVECO Dail 70c Van has a 10,000lb payload!
A IVECO Daily 65c and a 32ft 5ver.

A 35ft Forest River Silverback

bobojay5 wrote:
RobertRyan, this 3.6 engine that Chrysler is using is a sweetheart of an engine. Very popular here in the USA on Chrysler products. The highway patrol here in my state has went to it on all the Dodge Chargers as it will do 135mph

As a car engine it is fine. The Pentastar is the base engine for Jeeps sold here. Very few are sold, as most people use their Cherokees, Grand Cherokees for towing. In those cases it is the 3 Lire Diesel and to a lesser extent the 5.7 Hemi that is used.
http://www.jeep.com.au/features-a-specs/capability/jeep-grand-cherokee-powertrain

Jeep Grand Cherokee Powertrain

The Jeep® Grand Cherokee is re-imagined and re-engineered to perform heroically in all driving conditions and environments. With a choice of either the 3.6-litre Pentastar™ V6 engine, 5.7-litre HEMI® V8 engine, or 3.0-litre CRD turbo diesel V6 engine, the all-new Grand Cherokee will power all of your adventures.

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20'-10" is their maximum length.

I just checked lengths -- 20 feet is as long as it gets for the Dodge vans. At first I thought this would be something competing against the Roadtrek SS Agile, but by a feature per feature comparison, it is definitely aimed at the competition's Chevy vans than the Sprinter offerings.

I see that they've went back to the push button cabinetry locks in the Travato. Those are nice to have, although we've found in the ERA that they are not really necessary unless one does off roading and keeps heavy stuff in the upper cabinets.

RobertRyan, this 3.6 engine that Chrysler is using is a sweetheart of an engine. Very popular here in the USA on Chrysler products. The highway patrol here in my state has went to it on all the Dodge Chargers as it will do 135mph and out accelerate their previous V8 engine Crown Vics. The Provan has a 6spd auto trans vs a 5spd in the rear wheel drive applications up till 2012 in Chrysler products. The Ram 1500 pickups have this engine now with an 8spd trans and push 25mpg.

The diesel will be around but maybe not through WGO as it has a clutchless manual transmission that has to be shifted. Americans have become lazy and won't pay $85k for a vehicle with a stick shift, (or most any other stick shift car/truck)

RobertRyan wrote:

mumkin wrote:
I think Ford and the new Chrysler vans will push Sprinter out as quickly as the RV converters can get up to speed.

The 3.6 Litre Gas engine will be a liability. It appears they are not offering the Diesel like they do here. Not exactly great thinking there. The Insides of the Winnebago version, especially the collapsing bed look a bit pedestrian.

mlts22 wrote:
I wonder what its towing capacity will be. The ability to safely use a hitch mounted cargo rack or even a small enclosed trailer will come into handy.

Not much. You get a lot more with the diesel.

The Diesel makes a big difference in the towing performance

Mr. Ryan,

you are saying the diesel desire from the point of view of europe/australia which is predominently diesel. here in the USA most people DON"T want diesels. We want gasoline. the reason sprinter based
b's are mostly bought here is because WE HAVE NO CHOICE. if you want the physical dimensions of a sprinter you have to take diesel-thats all there is. the combination of gas transit/provan will decimate sprinter b.

Have a nice day:B

Davydd wrote:

mlts22 wrote:
Here is another video, which does a somewhat decent walkaround of the Travato.

That video is mostly about the ERA not the Travato. There was just a little bit on the Travato at the end and not a complete walkaround.

However, there were two interesting aspects about the ERA. First, the graphics are greatly improved and simplified yet those that have been ERA name stripping will have a harder time taking the side ERAs off this design. :)

Secondly, it looks as if they have lowered the bed in the back on this one. Has the bed height which gave a lot of storage underneath been a complaint?

The ERA in the video is a 70X David. Fold down couch

mlts22 wrote:
Here is another video, which does a somewhat decent walkaround of the Travato.

That video is mostly about the ERA not the Travato. There was just a little bit on the Travato at the end and not a complete walkaround.

However, there were two interesting aspects about the ERA. First, the graphics are greatly improved and simplified yet those that have been ERA name stripping will have a harder time taking the side ERAs off this design. :)

Secondly, it looks as if they have lowered the bed in the back on this one. Has the bed height which gave a lot of storage underneath been a complaint?

Here is another video, which does a somewhat decent walkaround of the Travato.