Ford E450 sway bar?,s

Yep the guy who answered, as soon as I told him the info on my MH ,
he was saying the part #'s and said how they were on sale 15%.
Since I was ordering both they took another $30.00 off so both bars for $460.00.

Then he went into up-sale mode and was asking about shocks front and rear, spring helpers, air bags. I laughed and said slow your roll there.
We both got a laugh out of that.


Now that would be one for the books ... You coming out here and helping me with the install ;)
Your a great person I'm honored to call a friend JD !

Yes it is nice out here uhm north of Sacramento anyways ;)

Nice thing about SD, at least some of them know at least something about springs, sway bars, suspension etc. They're better than the average Order Takers.

If you get in a jam, let me know. We don't have anybody out there now, except you and my daughter's former neighbor but GOODNESS I love it out there in NorCal. Wouldn't rule a trip out.

Yeah SD made the comment , you know its camping season and Hellwig is busy.
I know they most likely say that to everyone that orders one.
He said 7-10 business days to process the order, then 3-5 business days to receive it.

We'll see when I get them...Placed the order this morning.

I'm always looking for something to do...

The Hellwig bars I ordered from SD were drop shipped from Hellwig down the road from you in Visalia so might not take too long.

Well we'll see how long it takes to get them.
I ordered both the front and rear Hellwig sway bars from SD.
I ordered a set of end links off Amazon for the front bar.

Looking forward to installing them.
JD you busy ? lol

I haven't seen late model Ford E-Series sway bars, so the ones I looked up on RockAuto that looked like tie rod ends, surprised me. Years ago, I wanted to rebuild the front sway bar in a 1983 E350, and NAPA's kit had hard black poly plastic bushings. NO rubbery "give" in those. I didn't replace the center bushings, just the end links, and the improvement with those hard bushings was amazing.

mrmomb wrote:
I replaced front and rear sway bars with Hellwigs. The rear came with new end links however the front uses Ford's stock mushy end links. Are there any aftermarket stiffer end links available that are recommended?

Yep looking at mine and thinking the same thing !
Why doesn't Hellwig include new front end links with the kit ?

I'm looking to replace both front and rear, but will find new end links before installing the front bar...

Found front end links from Moog on Amazon for $26.60 , but these have zerk fitting to add grease , instead of the stock non serviceable ones...

j-d wrote:
A wheelbase that's long enough to have a good WB-to-Length ratio, is also going to cause a good front axle loading.

This is my "wheelbase conspiracy theory:" In coaches bigger than about 24-feet, the manufacturer wants to hang a walkaround queen bedroom like the 31-footers have. They don't want wheel wells in the bedroom, so that bedroom starts AFT OF THE AXLE, regardless of the overall coach length. A 31-foot can handle that because the rest of 31-feet goes between the axles. That weight provides good loading on the front axle. It also relieves some of the load on the rear axle. I realize that's another way of saying the same thing. But I'll tell you this: Look at a coach, particularly a Class C, where it seems the House part (not counting the cab-over) is "balanced" (meaning centered) on the rear axle, looking from the side. You're looking at one that's going to have handling problems, an overly light front axle, and possibly an overloaded rear axle.

OH, if the coach is rear-end-heavy, all the more reason for an upgraded rear sway bar.

I "Totally Agree" with you. 100% !!!

To me, it's almost like "Is it Dark out?" vs. "Is there no Sunlight?"

A wheelbase that's long enough to have a good WB-to-Length ratio, is also going to cause a good front axle loading.

This is my "wheelbase conspiracy theory:" In coaches bigger than about 24-feet, the manufacturer wants to hang a walkaround queen bedroom like the 31-footers have. They don't want wheel wells in the bedroom, so that bedroom starts AFT OF THE AXLE, regardless of the overall coach length. A 31-foot can handle that because the rest of 31-feet goes between the axles. That weight provides good loading on the front axle. It also relieves some of the load on the rear axle. I realize that's another way of saying the same thing. But I'll tell you this: Look at a coach, particularly a Class C, where it seems the House part (not counting the cab-over) is "balanced" (meaning centered) on the rear axle, looking from the side. You're looking at one that's going to have handling problems, an overly light front axle, and possibly an overloaded rear axle.

OH, if the coach is rear-end-heavy, all the more reason for an upgraded rear sway bar.

ron.dittmer wrote:
I think people driving shorter rigs with large rear overhangs notice a bigger improvement with HD bars due to the poor ratio of "wheel base to length" but all rigs benefit.

That raises an interesting question: What do you think is more important - a good "wheel base to length" ratio, or a good "weight on front axle to overall weight ratio" ... and why?

And also - which bad ratio of one or the other of the two above would benefit most from adequate front and rear sway bars ... and why?