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HelloImDavid
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Dec 04, 2013

'Freedom Express' model Class C. Owners ???

Greetings.

I have a 2008 Coachman Freedom Express 21 QB Model. I absolutely LOVE the layout of the inside ---- very well engineered allowing a HUGE cargo space from the outside : 103 cu. ft.

Wish the toilet was easier to sit on for us 6'3" Guys...lol... You sort of have to contort to take care of Business.

Ive had very little go wrong with this RV and find it a pleasure to drive. Ive used it over some pretty rough terrain including big sharp stones in the western Arizona Desert .

What pluses and minuses have you got if you own a Freedom Express ? Any mechanical troubles with the engine or Coach ???

Thanks for sharing. Dave in N.W. Florida.
  • Peterrrrr wrote:
    I too have a Freedom Express, but mine is a 2008 26SO model on the Ford E450 chassis. This was the last year that they were made by Coachmen. I am very happy with mine.

    Cons for the unit,is the placement and access to the water pump, and the noise that it makes. I have bought the silencer kit for it but I am going to have to take out the outside shower and water management centre to get at the pump. Something I have put off for the last four years, so guess it is not that loud. (smile). The original Jensen TV has been replaced after the 12 volt input Jack end shorted against the power circuit board. Replaced it with an LED 32 inch Vizio. Another item which I have had to do is the tightening of screws and addition of screws to hold the Oven and cook top in place. The frost heaved roads in the North-east have shaken the oven loose and bent the metal surrounding the cook top. Last Con is I would love to get an A class, but my wife says the C class is fine.

    I have added fixed Solar panels, but now find that I do not exercise the generator enough. The Solar is sufficient for all our electricity needs, but we are now limited by holding tank and fresh water capacity. Coachmen provided me the wiring and plumbing schematics for my model and they have come in handy for the addition of an inverter and automatic transfer switches for the solar, and generator-shore power. Passing through Indiana, I have bought from the surplus centres matching flip up counter tops, and counter ends, which I have incorporated into the coach. I had a cabinet maker make matching cabinet fronts to add easier access to under the seats of the dinette, as well as extra drawer under the sink and a cupboard over the microwave.

    I have had no issues with the chassis or Coach, other than the little things of tightening shaken loose screws. In fact, I have had no warranty claims. I have 35K on the unit and are very happy with it. My wife and I are now snow birds and spend 6 months in the sunny and warm south in it, both boon docking and staying at RV parks. Overall we are both very pleased with it.

    Nice to hear from other Freedom Express owners. Travel safe.


    I was able to get to my water pump , and located in the cargo bay where its real easy to get at now. Just relocating it there made it quieter inside.

    I eliminated all the rattles from my stove too. Its was mostly coming from the broiler .

    Enjoy.
    • Halloween58's avatar
      Halloween58
      Explorer

      Dave,

      Can you share those schematics if you still have them please. I have the same model and would like to install solar on mine.

      Mike from Central Florida

      • way2roll's avatar
        way2roll
        Navigator II

        Not sure if you are aware but you are responding to a 12-year-old post And Dave's last post was 10 years ago. You may want to post your question in a new topic. I doubt it gets much traction buried as a response in a topic over a decade old. 

  • tred0956 wrote:
    I have a 2008 Georgie Boy Maverick 213qb on the Chev chassis, which was made by Coachmen (as was the Freedom Express) and is pretty well identical to yours, and to the Freelander 2130qb. We just bought it this fall and we are liking it-and the outdoor storage makes it one of the few small class C's that fit our criteria of having enough room for a Weber Q, lawn chairs, etc and 2 sets of golf clubs. That and the 60" by 80" bed are winners!

    The only complaint we had is the u-shaped dinette seemed pretty low relative to the window. When we were sitting at the table, it felt like we could only see sky. I cut some 2 1/2" rigid foam board insulation to fit under the cushions and it is much more comfortable now. I found some duct tape in a colour that goes well with the upholstery to cover the edges of the pink foam board, so this mod is hardly noticeable.

    Another thing that I was not crazy about was that the shower hose was hooked up to the bathroom sink faucet. I installed a new faucet, without the diverter, on the sink and tee'd the water lines to the bathtub, where I put the original faucet with diverter, the way it should have been in the first place.

    My current project is installing a back up camera. The next mod will be installing 3 pull-out drawers under the sink. After that, I think I`ll try to find a way of insulating the Onan generator so it is not so noisy inside and out. And, maybe add some solar in the future. And, figure out a sliding table system so the table can be slid closer to the wall for more stand up room. I know, the list goes on...

    Both the wife and I really like driving this thing, it is the perfect size for us and the cat, and the gas mileage is a bit better than we expected. It is a low mileage unit that was babied by the previous owner. Although not fancy, it does seem to be reasonably well built, and I agree that it is well-engineered to fit so much in a small class C.


    I did away with the shower hot water hose at the sink and rerouted a new hot water supply thru the shower side of the Sink Stand with small Ball Valve. Works good and delivers more pressure now.

    I filled up the cavity that's under the dinette seat with batt insulation, as the Generator is hung right below that and its a tad quieter. I also used insulating boards on all sides of the Generator except the front and cut holes for the exhaust , oil change plug, etc...

    Glad you like yours. I think its a well designed Rig .
  • I too have a Freedom Express, but mine is a 2008 26SO model on the Ford E450 chassis. This was the last year that they were made by Coachmen. I am very happy with mine.

    Cons for the unit,is the placement and access to the water pump, and the noise that it makes. I have bought the silencer kit for it but I am going to have to take out the outside shower and water management centre to get at the pump. Something I have put off for the last four years, so guess it is not that loud. (smile). The original Jensen TV has been replaced after the 12 volt input Jack end shorted against the power circuit board. Replaced it with an LED 32 inch Vizio. Another item which I have had to do is the tightening of screws and addition of screws to hold the Oven and cook top in place. The frost heaved roads in the North-east have shaken the oven loose and bent the metal surrounding the cook top. Last Con is I would love to get an A class, but my wife says the C class is fine.

    I have added fixed Solar panels, but now find that I do not exercise the generator enough. The Solar is sufficient for all our electricity needs, but we are now limited by holding tank and fresh water capacity. Coachmen provided me the wiring and plumbing schematics for my model and they have come in handy for the addition of an inverter and automatic transfer switches for the solar, and generator-shore power. Passing through Indiana, I have bought from the surplus centres matching flip up counter tops, and counter ends, which I have incorporated into the coach. I had a cabinet maker make matching cabinet fronts to add easier access to under the seats of the dinette, as well as extra drawer under the sink and a cupboard over the microwave.

    I have had no issues with the chassis or Coach, other than the little things of tightening shaken loose screws. In fact, I have had no warranty claims. I have 35K on the unit and are very happy with it. My wife and I are now snow birds and spend 6 months in the sunny and warm south in it, both boon docking and staying at RV parks. Overall we are both very pleased with it.

    Nice to hear from other Freedom Express owners. Travel safe.
  • I have a 2008 Georgie Boy Maverick 213qb on the Chev chassis, which was made by Coachmen (as was the Freedom Express) and is pretty well identical to yours, and to the Freelander 2130qb. We just bought it this fall and we are liking it-and the outdoor storage makes it one of the few small class C's that fit our criteria of having enough room for a Weber Q, lawn chairs, etc and 2 sets of golf clubs. That and the 60" by 80" bed are winners!

    The only complaint we had is the u-shaped dinette seemed pretty low relative to the window. When we were sitting at the table, it felt like we could only see sky. I cut some 2 1/2" rigid foam board insulation to fit under the cushions and it is much more comfortable now. I found some duct tape in a colour that goes well with the upholstery to cover the edges of the pink foam board, so this mod is hardly noticeable.

    Another thing that I was not crazy about was that the shower hose was hooked up to the bathroom sink faucet. I installed a new faucet, without the diverter, on the sink and tee'd the water lines to the bathtub, where I put the original faucet with diverter, the way it should have been in the first place.

    My current project is installing a back up camera. The next mod will be installing 3 pull-out drawers under the sink. After that, I think I`ll try to find a way of insulating the Onan generator so it is not so noisy inside and out. And, maybe add some solar in the future. And, figure out a sliding table system so the table can be slid closer to the wall for more stand up room. I know, the list goes on...

    Both the wife and I really like driving this thing, it is the perfect size for us and the cat, and the gas mileage is a bit better than we expected. It is a low mileage unit that was babied by the previous owner. Although not fancy, it does seem to be reasonably well built, and I agree that it is well-engineered to fit so much in a small class C.
  • Dave,

    We don't have a Freedom Express, but I do notice two outstanding things in your post:

    - You get an A++ for daring to take your small Class C offroad!

    - That outside storage size is off the charts for a small Class C!