How big is 40' really...

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dubdub07 wrote:

Desert Captain wrote:
You think my last post constitutes "inciting riot"? :h Does LMAO constitute being "enraged?

I have on numerous occasions seen rigs and TVs encroaching onto the access road and for you to deny that it ever happens is absurd. No it does not enrage me but maybe, just maybe these folks never thought about the possible consequences of doing so and pointing out what could happen might change their behavior.

I checked out your signature and that is one nice big rig, methinks I may have touched nerve on past behavior (that of course never happened). :B We do agree, I think, that it should not happen and should be addressed when it does. I prefer to speak up to the host or Ranger as opposed to waiting until 1000 and or resorting to your battery - ram (sic), but if you ever do please have someone shoot video and post it here. :B

Let me say this, adding another hit to the dead horse, I do not condone the behavior you speak of. I, along with the majority, just have not seen it. If I did, I would not be OK with it. We have a motorhome because of the campgrounds and the opportunity that comes with that. Sitting outside next to the campfire in different locations is what we are all about. Being 40' limits us a bit, but I am less obtrusive than I used to be with having to figure out what do do with my truck after setting up camp. Bottom line, we are all on your side and I personally would never go where I am told "not" to. It is no fun to have to unhook the Jeep and do a 19 point turn backing up traffic just because you "thought" you could make it. Or being nose first into a campground you can't turnaround in. Because I am 40', and a lot of others here as well think the same, I try not to go where I am not suppose to and I try to research my routes and campgrounds as best I can. I spent too much money on this adventure to risk my family's or the public's safety. Having a big rig requires responsibility and I take it very seriously.

WW

We agree. Folks like you and my friend with his 40 footer are not the problem. This thread will continue to arise from the ashes of this Forum as new folks seek to be told what they want to hear. "Sure you can go anywhere in your 40 something footer" (kind of reminds of "Can I tow this?". :S Those with 40 footers (or a modicum of common sense), know better than anyone that it is simply not true.

So many of our campgrounds were built long before RV's got so large. With the cost of enlarging campgrounds being way down the fiscal priority list (where it belongs), I don't expect that to change anytime soon. There are a couple of very neat CG's I would love to try. I drove the truck only into Cochise Stronghold but there is no way I could safely get my 22' TT in and out of there and the limit is 22'. :S

I guess I have seen more of the oversize rig abuse than you, hopefully neither of us will encounter it again. If it hits a nerve with me thank the chucklehead at Fools Hollow Lake with the 40", triple axel fiver pulled by a one ton crew cab long bed who simply decided to pull to the side of the access road while he waited for his site to clear. Asked him nicely to pull up/move so I could get by. His response was to fold the drivers side mirror in and go back inside, the door slammed in my face was a nice touch. I had to drive 4 feet off the pavement dodging rocks, bushes and trees and still cleared his rig my an inch but was left so far out of position that I could not back into my site.

The Ranger was happy to explain the facts of life to him and he was told to move or leave as he was blocking emergency as well as general access for the entire loop. Watching him struggle unsuccessfully to get into his undersized site was entertaining and after an hour (of continuing to block the road, he was gone but obviously not forgotten. It was a very nice looking rig though. :R

Desert Captain wrote:
You think my last post constitutes "inciting riot"? :h Does LMAO constitute being "enraged?

I have on numerous occasions seen rigs and TVs encroaching onto the access road and for you to deny that it ever happens is absurd. No it does not enrage me but maybe, just maybe these folks never thought about the possible consequences of doing so and pointing out what could happen might change their behavior.

I checked out your signature and that is one nice big rig, methinks I may have touched nerve on past behavior (that of course never happened). :B We do agree, I think, that it should not happen and should be addressed when it does. I prefer to speak up to the host or Ranger as opposed to waiting until 1000 and or resorting to your battery - ram (sic), but if you ever do please have someone shoot video and post it here. :B

Let me say this, adding another hit to the dead horse, I do not condone the behavior you speak of. I, along with the majority, just have not seen it. If I did, I would not be OK with it. We have a motorhome because of the campgrounds and the opportunity that comes with that. Sitting outside next to the campfire in different locations is what we are all about. Being 40' limits us a bit, but I am less obtrusive than I used to be with having to figure out what do do with my truck after setting up camp. Bottom line, we are all on your side and I personally would never go where I am told "not" to. It is no fun to have to unhook the Jeep and do a 19 point turn backing up traffic just because you "thought" you could make it. Or being nose first into a campground you can't turnaround in. Because I am 40', and a lot of others here as well think the same, I try not to go where I am not suppose to and I try to research my routes and campgrounds as best I can. I spent too much money on this adventure to risk my family's or the public's safety. Having a big rig requires responsibility and I take it very seriously.

WW

RayChez wrote:
Dub dub, you need to resize the picture of your coach on the signature. It is way too long. Lol

You see, that is funny! Keep it light and informative! I will resize it to 35'. Thanks, RayChez, for the laugh!

Dub dub, you need to resize the picture of your coach on the signature. It is way too long. Lol

Don't feed the troll, folks.

CA Traveler wrote:
Stupid is stupid and you can't fix that. The office person is not always knowledgeable about site possibilities.

I said RANGER not person at the office. I've called the RANGER a few times and he/she always knew what fit where. Never had a problem with the RANGER's advice.

GENECOP wrote:

I suggest the next time you see a Big 45' Motorhome blocking access creating a dangerous situation report them immediately to the office I have never seen that in 30 of Rving.. , take a photo next time also and post it up so we can see the offender.

I've never seen this either but I don't have 30 years of RVing under my belt.

2gypsies wrote:
It is definitely not a 'rule'. Having volunteered for national and state parks, we have first-hand knowledge that this is not a rule.

Glad you confirmed this. I was always under the impression those were suggestions not rules. I would like to reiterate that I've seen plenty of 40 ft MH's at the CG's we go to. I don't see an issue with the OP's desire of a 40er.

You think my last post constitutes "inciting riot"? :h Does LMAO constitute being "enraged?

I have on numerous occasions seen rigs and TVs encroaching onto the access road and for you to deny that it ever happens is absurd. No it does not enrage me but maybe, just maybe these folks never thought about the possible consequences of doing so and pointing out what could happen might change their behavior.

I checked out your signature and that is one nice big rig, methinks I may have touched nerve on past behavior (that of course never happened). :B We do agree, I think, that it should not happen and should be addressed when it does. I prefer to speak up to the host or Ranger as opposed to waiting until 1000 and or resorting to your battery - ram (sic), but if you ever do please have someone shoot video and post it here. :B

Desert Captain wrote:

dubdub07 wrote:

Desert Captain wrote:
I am always puzzled by the "Rules apply to everyone else but me" crowd. If you have a 40' rig you get to enjoy lots of amenities that the smaller rigs do not. That is your choice but with that choice come a few restrictions such as where you can park it. Some here seem to think it is cute or funny to flaunt the rule. Got news for you folks, it is neither.

Many times I have seen oversize rigs - motorhomes, TT's, fivers and/or their TV's encroaching out into the access roads because they chose to ignore the CG's posted restrictions. This is all smirks and grins until one of your neighbors strokes out at O'dark thirty and the emergency vehicles can't get through. Take a look at just how large paramedic or fire rigs are these days. Congratulations on having a nice big rig, I am sure you enjoy it but please don't be jerk at the possible expense of others. :S

Am I the only one that frowned at this response? Lighten up, Francis. I don't think there is the malice you describe in the OP's question. Certainly we aren't backing in to our site with the thought of blocking an emergency vehicle.

I will say this.......I look online first becuase it is so convenient. If I see a restriction that is close to my length, I call and ask. If they can't accomodate, they can't. I had a 36' FW that was 54' with the truck, yet most CGs will more than accomodate that over a 40' MH. A 40' motorhome is, 40'! I can back my 40' motorhome in pretty much any site that is 40' or bigger. It is a lot easier than backing the FW in, IMO.

WW

Glad you think life and death situations call for me to "Lighten up". I was not talking about your ability to back your 40' MH into a site that is "40' or bigger". My post was not aimed at the OP but the folks who seem to take pleasure in flaunting the rules. Sorry to be the one to enlighten them but the rules apply to everybody. A few days ago a poster on a another thread was whining because a neighbor complained about his trailer tongue being "a couple of feet into the access road". This sort of nonsense happens all the time. :S

My point was and is if you are 40' and the CG says 30' or 35' max site size go elsewhere. The same goes for many beautiful mountain roads which are restricted to vehicles of "X" length. I guess you have never come around a curve and found an oversized Class A smack in the middle of your lane. It is quite a cheap thrill I can assure you. :E

Here you go again, inciting riot. I would say that there are about zero campgrounds that would allow this to happen. I think you saw it once and it enraged you so much that you must bring it up time and again to prove a point that doesn't need to be made. Most of us (most) that can afford a 40+footer wouldn't stand for such a thing. At 1001 I will ask those noisy ones to calm down, so if I (or those like minded) see that someone is blocking an entrance/exit, then by-George I will say something about that. If it is truly life and death, I would even use my coach as a battery-ram to push the culprit out of the way.

Take a deep breath......in, out.....the fiction you speak of is not enraging us the way it has upset you.....the skyeth does not fall, Francis.

WW

It all depends where you like to camp. Right now I am in a Naco camp ground West of Lake Tahoe where there is a lot of high timber. It would be very hard to maneuver a 45' coach in this preserve, 40' is about the maximum. And state parks in California are designed for no more then 30'.

You are limited if you go too big. They are nice, but very limited.