I'm Questioning Power/Torque of Gas vs Diesel
Newbie here...DW & I are stepping from TT to Class B in a couple of months. Planning for just the two of us (+ a grandkid under 4 occasionally) for 2 week max trips several times a year. Our targets ...
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Hi topless,
You write:
"Ask yourself, why are all 18 wheelers powered by turbo diesels? Also why are most trucks used for heavy hauling turbo diesels?"
Are you kidding? There are many features of an engine. You choose the engine based on the application, about that simple.
"Hp is a method of rating the work a motor will do, but torque is what moves things. It's not hp that loosens nor tightens a bolt, it torque."
Huh? Right, no engine has zero torque as there would not be any hp. Again, an Express Van will leave a Sprinter in the dust Unless it has to do it with a lot of hp over a long enough period of time. But it has Nothing to do with Torque. Rather the cooling capacity of the engine.
"Having said that, for general,use, a gasoline engine is fine. There are more advantages to a Sprinter than just the turbo diesel."
It is more than general use but agree. There are Sprinter advantage other than how it makes hp, and downsides too. In life there is often not best, just advantages and disadvantages. We choose the best solution for our application which can also include emotion and feelings.
"When driving in mountains, you can use the manual shift mode in the transmission to engine brake and save over heating you brakes."
I've never had a gas vehicle including a B that can't do the same.
"Since the Sprinter was designed as a delivery van for use around the globe, it handles difficult terrain with ease, uphill, downhill, tight turns, narrow roads, and those in combination. We drove the road between Montrose and Durango Colorado and after that 107 miles of hairpin turns, 3 - 12,000 ft passes I learned to really appreciate the Sprinter. There are hairpin turns on the side of a mountain that are 15 mph. I don trembler a single level part of that road, Longest straight might have been 1/4 mile."
I've driven that road in my gas B and experienced about the same, would have worded it a little different is all.
"The next day we drove down Hiway 50 through Monarch Pass . Speed limit is 45 mph, by using the lower gears, never touched the brakes all the way down the mountain. Was following a Suburban that was riding its brakes all the way."
Maybe if the Suburban driver had pulled over at the end, you could have assisted the drive with a little diplomatic education about using the gears.
"There is more to a truck than just the motor, I was one of the first on this forum with a Sprinter. Got all kinds of static about how my 154 hp motor wouldn't do work. It does."
You would not have received any static from me. I would have supported the fact that 154 hp, that can use that 154 hp over time will get the job done. Some might not be satisfied with the acceleration though. Me, I would not have a problem with the acceleration, but would have also appreciated more.
Bud
You write:
"Ask yourself, why are all 18 wheelers powered by turbo diesels? Also why are most trucks used for heavy hauling turbo diesels?"
Are you kidding? There are many features of an engine. You choose the engine based on the application, about that simple.
"Hp is a method of rating the work a motor will do, but torque is what moves things. It's not hp that loosens nor tightens a bolt, it torque."
Huh? Right, no engine has zero torque as there would not be any hp. Again, an Express Van will leave a Sprinter in the dust Unless it has to do it with a lot of hp over a long enough period of time. But it has Nothing to do with Torque. Rather the cooling capacity of the engine.
"Having said that, for general,use, a gasoline engine is fine. There are more advantages to a Sprinter than just the turbo diesel."
It is more than general use but agree. There are Sprinter advantage other than how it makes hp, and downsides too. In life there is often not best, just advantages and disadvantages. We choose the best solution for our application which can also include emotion and feelings.
"When driving in mountains, you can use the manual shift mode in the transmission to engine brake and save over heating you brakes."
I've never had a gas vehicle including a B that can't do the same.
"Since the Sprinter was designed as a delivery van for use around the globe, it handles difficult terrain with ease, uphill, downhill, tight turns, narrow roads, and those in combination. We drove the road between Montrose and Durango Colorado and after that 107 miles of hairpin turns, 3 - 12,000 ft passes I learned to really appreciate the Sprinter. There are hairpin turns on the side of a mountain that are 15 mph. I don trembler a single level part of that road, Longest straight might have been 1/4 mile."
I've driven that road in my gas B and experienced about the same, would have worded it a little different is all.
"The next day we drove down Hiway 50 through Monarch Pass . Speed limit is 45 mph, by using the lower gears, never touched the brakes all the way down the mountain. Was following a Suburban that was riding its brakes all the way."
Maybe if the Suburban driver had pulled over at the end, you could have assisted the drive with a little diplomatic education about using the gears.
"There is more to a truck than just the motor, I was one of the first on this forum with a Sprinter. Got all kinds of static about how my 154 hp motor wouldn't do work. It does."
You would not have received any static from me. I would have supported the fact that 154 hp, that can use that 154 hp over time will get the job done. Some might not be satisfied with the acceleration though. Me, I would not have a problem with the acceleration, but would have also appreciated more.
Bud
