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rexlion
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Aug 07, 2013

I'm starting to think about a B

We tent camped in our early years, but since 2005 I've been towing a TT. Had a 23' Rockwood, then a 17' Burro, now a 16' KZ. We had a brief fling (one summer) with a popup, too, in '99.

But now that I am back home (Okla.) from Yosemite, I am thinking really seriously about selling the trailer and getting a used class B.

On the way to Yosemite I stopped at Capulin Volcano Natl Monument in NM. Bought my permit, then found out that they would not permit me to tow my TT up the road to the top of the volcano. Grrr! My shoulder was bothering me and I did not feel like aggravating it by cranking the TT's jack up and down 4 times (once to disconnect the WD, 2nd to unhook the ball, 3rd and 4th to reverse the process afterward) just to go 2 miles up the hill and back. So I simply left, thinking as I drove away, Hmmm, I wouldn't have had this problem if I had a van camper.

Later, I'm crossing the San Rafael Swell in a strong headwind. The Highlander is struggling harder than usual to make it up the inclines. That big sail behind me is starting to irritate me. And I start to think, If I had a van instead of a trailer, I could be maintaining the speed limit most of the day instead of having a max speed in the low 60s and getting bogged down to 45-50 on the hills. I could make better time without that TT behind me.

Then when I'm at Bridalveil Creek in Yosemite, one night an older gentleman pulls in with his pop top van. Looks nice. Looks convenient. I talk to him a bit and he says it works great for him. (Wish I'd asked to see inside, dagnab it.) Hmmmmm. I could see myself with one of those. I camp alone nowadays, since my DW had part of her colon out and lost all interest in travel; it seems like a camper van would be great for one person.

Two days later an elderly couple (in 80s, I think) pulls in with a Sprinter van and Scamp in tow. Well, I like egg trailers, so I went over and introduced myself, and then helped them get into their site. Had to move the picnic table and guide him in. After backing in, the gentleman was too tired to even unhook the trailer. (I offered but he declined, said he'd do it the next day.) And I returned to my site thinking, is this what I have to look forward to eventually if I keep towing a trailer?

As I head home from my vacation, I am thinking. I took the TT when DW and I went to visit relatives in Michigan this June, but she wasn't happy about it. She says she missed staying in a nice hotel on the way. And towing the TT slowed us down, making the trip about 1.5 hours longer each way. With a camper van, we can make better time and easily park in hotel parking spaces. I'll still have a bed I can call my own while we see relatives, and a way to go off and camp for a couple of nights while she visits her mother.

You know, I tow a cargo trailer 20,000 miles per year for work. I'm getting kinda tired of towing on my vacation as well. Yup, time to start shopping for a Roadtrek or a Pleasure-Way or a Sportsmobile, or something!
  • gnight wrote:
    I find it odd to come to a B forum and everyone is trying to talk you out of it. Why not just let him know the goods/bads. I think he can figure out if he can afford it or not. From his description, a B was made for him.

    Yeah, it's like walking into an AA meeting and having everyone tell me I should keep drinking! Lol.
  • wincrasher65 wrote:
    I had a relative tell me he got rid of his TT because all the cranking was hard on his bad back. When I told him about power jacks and using your drill to move the stabilizers, he looked at me like I had a tentacle growing out of my forehead.

    Those vans are nice, but they don't go EVERYWHERE - not off-road anyways if you are exploring the West.

    If budget is an issue, I'd either upgrade your existing trailer or look at a new trailer that has the features you want and is less an issue for your tow vehicle - or upgrade your tow vehicle too.

    There are also nice vans that are not Sprinters for alot less money. I've seen big B's or C's on a F250 chassis that is also a pretty compelling package on a very strong platform.

    Well, my current rig won't go "everywhere" either. Yeah, I'd have to get a Quigley or something if I wanted to really go down the rough trails, but I have found that I feel a bit uncomfortable about wandering too far back in the boonies. Not sure if I need to go very far; on this past trip I found a nice lonesome spot all by myself, no people or noise, off the highway just 2.5 miles down a good dirt road and then 1/4 mile on a two-track. Far enough!

    Believe it or not, DW told me it was fine by her if I wanted to buy a second TT and leave it at her mother's place, just for our annual Michigan trips. (Any wife who suggests a 2nd RV, even when she doesn't like to use them, is a keeper!) Not sure I want to do that, though.

    I did notice a 24' C, 10 years old with 40K miles, nearby with an asking price of $25K. Ford V10. Pics look great, but I'm just not sure I want one that big. I certainly would not want to use that one for a work tug, anyway. But it amazes me how much that thing depreciated in 10 years.
  • I find it odd to come to a B forum and everyone is trying to talk you out of it. Why not just let him know the goods/bads. I think he can figure out if he can afford it or not. From his description, a B was made for him.
  • the bear II wrote:
    For the price you will pay for a B (new or used) you could add features to your TT to make using it easier for a lot less. Maybe even buy a tow vehicle with more power.
    Convenience items:
    Electric Tongue Jack
    Automated Awning
    Auto Levelers
    Auto Sat Dish

    In my opinion the Class B's are over priced for what you get.

    That being said it does seem like a good choice for your situation as long as you find a really good buy on one.

    I agree, electric jack would be a nice addition now that I added the WD hitch and doubled my cranking. The rest of those items would mean little to me, nor do they address my other reasons for thinking of a B.

    Cost is a consideration. I know that B's are not cheap. I'm thinking maybe something about 6-10 years old with not too many miles. Maybe I can find a bargain; some folks do find bargains occasionally, so why not me?

    I've been thinking that I should probably buy a new tug in a year or two, since my Highlander has 150K miles on it... after all, I'm using it for work as well as play. Top candidates in my mind are the new Jeep GC diesel and Ford Explorer 3.5 turbo. But with price tags in the low to mid $40s, they don't come cheap. So I wonder... why not spend that money on a camper van instead? I could use it for work towing and get a tax writeoff on it. And I'm getting to the age where my bladder hollers more frequently; having a toilet (not to mention a fridge and cooktop for lunch prep) could be right handy when I'm out working all day.

    Really it seems like a lot of things are coming together at one time to make a B attractive to me right now. I like my trailer, and it's paid off (was under $10K new), but for my particular situation I'm seeing some downsides to TT camping and some upsides to the compact B.
  • Well we have a b+, works for us.and it's a29ft too, with three slides, and it's a Monaco, wow good idea. At first didn't think it waz big enough, now 4yrs later. Nice unit. Glad we got it. Now it's all --happy-camping
  • I had a relative tell me he got rid of his TT because all the cranking was hard on his bad back. When I told him about power jacks and using your drill to move the stabilizers, he looked at me like I had a tentacle growing out of my forehead.

    Those vans are nice, but they don't go EVERYWHERE - not off-road anyways if you are exploring the West.

    If budget is an issue, I'd either upgrade your existing trailer or look at a new trailer that has the features you want and is less an issue for your tow vehicle - or upgrade your tow vehicle too.

    There are also nice vans that are not Sprinters for alot less money. I've seen big B's or C's on a F250 chassis that is also a pretty compelling package on a very strong platform.
  • Don't forget Great West Van, Liesure Travel Van, and even Airstream...
  • the bear II wrote:
    For the price you will pay for a B (new or used) you could add fetures to your TT to make using it easier.

    Electric Tongue Jack
    Automated Awning
    Auto Levelers

    In my opinion the Class B's are over priced for what you get.

    That being said it does seem like a good choice for your situation as long as you find a really good buy on one.


    yep I figure my tow vehicle, a gussied up Highlander, and my TT a gussied up Ascend total in cost about 20-30K less than a B.
    bumpy
  • For the price you will pay for a B (new or used) you could add features to your TT to make using it easier for a lot less. Maybe even buy a tow vehicle with more power.
    Convenience items:
    Electric Tongue Jack
    Automated Awning
    Auto Levelers
    Auto Sat Dish

    In my opinion the Class B's are over priced for what you get.

    That being said it does seem like a good choice for your situation as long as you find a really good buy on one.