After much discussion with Kelderman in Oskaloosa, Iowa, I arranged to have their deler in IL install the Kelderman system on a 2013 Winnebago Vista 30T. I drove the MH 3+ hours up there and drove the car back home. Today the installer told me that the system shipped to them does dot belong on the new 2013 Ford F53 chassis as Ford has apparently made some major changes to the 2013 model and the parts and directions sent by Kelderman are not adapted to the new chassis.Any experience out there?

Mine is on a 2011 chassis. I had no idea the 2013 had changed much if at all. Are you sure yours is 2013 chassis or is it 2013 on 2012 chassis. Mine is 2012 on 2011 chassis. My installers played with it but got it installed. I think my next call and probably trip is to Oksaloosa. Friend had his done in New Mexico and went to the home base and they tweaked things and basically treated him very well and made it wonderful. If there are changes they will figure a work around. Let us know how it comes out.

All I know right now is that the installer says the parts are not right, holes are not there, some replacement parts are lighter than the ones on the Ford (1/2 inch bolts vs 5/8 inch bolts) etc. also, the diagrams do not match the chassis. Right now I'm facing two 7 hour round trips and no work done. Not happy at this point.

I think my installer drilled some holes. Call the company and discuss. They will get it straight. My installer is Madison Spring in Madison WI and I think I am the only Kelderman they have installed. Good luck.

So, in the overall, is it worth the money to do? My Vista seems to not be only a little squirrelly, but it sounds as if parts will fall off on some roads.

Baithouse1 wrote:So, in the overall, is it worth the money to do? My Vista seems to not be only a little squirrelly, but it sounds as if parts will fall off on some roads.I would also like to know if it is worth it. I have an 08 Itasca Sunrise that has quite a bit of roll and is very difficult to level. I am hopeful that the air ride will help both of those issues. Please keep me informed.

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Goldencrazy
Explorer
May 18, 2013
Baithouse1 wrote:
My chassis is a 2013. We did find out a couple other things unrelated to the attempted Kelderman install including the rear wiring harness riding on the generator exhaust pipe. The biggest thing right now is that the two brackets that stand off the hood at the top were not fastened on and fell down onto the frame allowing the hood to repeatedly contact the lower edge of the windshield. The result is two breaks in that huge windshield and cracks heading up the glass. Only 3800 miles! Seems as if there may be some severe quality control problems at Winnebago.

It would appear a trip to Iowa is in the picture with Oskaloosa and Forest City. Good luck.
Baithouse1
Explorer
May 18, 2013
later this summer, methinks.
Baithouse1
Explorer
Oct 24, 2013
Bit the bullet and arranged for Kelderman to do the install on my Vista 30T. Great experience. The ride is amazingly better. We drove 350 miles in gusty winds yesterday after leaving Oskaloosa, and I wasn't the beat up wreck I would have been before. We installed both front and back as well as the Safe T Steer Plus. It has made driving the RV enjoyable. Believe me, it wasn't fun before.
Goldencrazy
Explorer
Oct 25, 2013
Congrats. I knew you would love it. I will be interested to learn what inflation levels work best for you. I play around with them but have found low 40's on front and mid to upper 50's in rear works very well. I also added a rear tiger trac bar and did the bolt change know as cheap handling fix. I think next spring it will be five star tuning mod for me.
Baithouse1
Explorer
Oct 25, 2013
They put 30 and 60 in the fronts to level it and 71 in the rear. What an impressive operation they run. I did like Gary Kelderman's Prevost parked there. They told me he pulls a double decker trailer with two Harleys, a Lexus, and his helicopter.
Pirate1
Explorer
Oct 25, 2013
Baithouse1 wrote:
They put 30 and 60 in the fronts to level it and 71 in the rear. What an impressive operation they run. I did like Gary Kelderman's Prevost parked there. They told me he pulls a double decker trailer with two Harleys, a Lexus, and his helicopter.
That's a lot of toys. Does he pay for those from selling stuff to RV owners?

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