Leaving upper mich in late nov

If you live in the UP you know how to drive on poor roads and also when to just wait. If not you will learn and the advice here has been good. When it is raining or wet snow with temps in the 33 F range black ice can surprise. It is important to be alert. i watch the spray from the trucks and large vehicles. When wet they spray. When black ice the spray stops. So no spray go slow and get stopped. In the UP it won't be long until the road is treated.

John&Joey wrote:

Bill.Satellite wrote:

long_hauler wrote:
How far up north are you? The further you go the worse the snow can get but you might get lucky. Sometimes you get burried up there and sometimes it doesn't snow a lot until December/January. If you do get caught in the snow, you're just going to have to bite the bullet and drive real slow. It's not just your own stuff you have to worry about on snowy Michigan roads either, it's all the other idiots that think they are invincible. Good luck!

Sorry but I must disagree. You don't drive really slow, you simply don't drive. It can wait, the weather and the road conditions will improve shortly.

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Pulling a toad with a class A going 2mph and hitting a patch of black ice on a curve just means you're going into the ditch at 2mph. It will be an easy wrecker pull though. :B

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I'm from Wisconsin. Plan your trip according to the weather repors and if you do run into snow. Pull over.

Snow fall and snow Storms only last so long and then the snowplows are out plowing and salting and the following day the sun comes out and the streets are bone dry.

Why take a chance? I never could understand those that feel the need to get out and drive in the middle of a snow storm or any snow fall for that matter when you can wait until the plows go thru. And then you can go thru safely. Just saying.

Bill.Satellite wrote:

Pulling a toad with a class A going 2mph and hitting a patch of black ice on a curve just means you're going into the ditch at 2mph. It will be an easy wrecker pull though.

I sure wish I has said that!!! :B

Well, I lived in the UP and would travel to Detroit often.

The very worst driving was when the seasons were changing. I can't tell you how many 4x4's I saw in the ditch because they "knew it all."

Black ice is one of those things where you are totally helpless. The best you can do is take your foot off the pedal, hold the wheel straight, and hope for the best. Turn the wheel, or hit the brakes and it's all over. If you're pulling a trailer your odds are pretty good you're going into the ditch.

Pulling a toad with a class A going 2mph and hitting a patch of black ice on a curve just means you're going into the ditch at 2mph. It will be an easy wrecker pull though.

I sure wish I has said that!!! :B

Bill.Satellite wrote:

long_hauler wrote:
How far up north are you? The further you go the worse the snow can get but you might get lucky. Sometimes you get burried up there and sometimes it doesn't snow a lot until December/January. If you do get caught in the snow, you're just going to have to bite the bullet and drive real slow. It's not just your own stuff you have to worry about on snowy Michigan roads either, it's all the other idiots that think they are invincible. Good luck!

Sorry but I must disagree. You don't drive really slow, you simply don't drive. It can wait, the weather and the road conditions will improve shortly.

X2

Pulling a toad with a class A going 2mph and hitting a patch of black ice on a curve just means you're going into the ditch at 2mph. It will be an easy wrecker pull though. :B

long_hauler wrote:
How far up north are you? The further you go the worse the snow can get but you might get lucky. Sometimes you get burried up there and sometimes it doesn't snow a lot until December/January. If you do get caught in the snow, you're just going to have to bite the bullet and drive real slow. It's not just your own stuff you have to worry about on snowy Michigan roads either, it's all the other idiots that think they are invincible. Good luck!

Sorry but I must disagree. You don't drive really slow, you simply don't drive. It can wait, the weather and the road conditions will improve shortly.

Just allow plenty of time escaping the U.P. so that you don't have to travel when the roads are bad. Just sit and wait it out. We had to pull a 5th wheel one time in snow and vowed never to do it again. It was very scary.

How far up north are you? The further you go the worse the snow can get but you might get lucky. Sometimes you get burried up there and sometimes it doesn't snow a lot until December/January. If you do get caught in the snow, you're just going to have to bite the bullet and drive real slow. It's not just your own stuff you have to worry about on snowy Michigan roads either, it's all the other idiots that think they are invincible. Good luck!

You really have to be careful that time of year in Michigan. If in the UP you got snow, if in the lower (but upper half) you got black ice. Southern Michigan you should be fairly safe.

FWIW, after seeing so many people going into the ditch pulling things when they hit black ice, it would not be something I would want to temp.

The towed will be fine. If the RV is not all over the road, neither will the towed. Drive when the roads are clear of ice and snow and it's exactly like driving in the Summer. I have been forced to drive in the snow and that was OK as well. The toad followed exactly where the RV goes not matter the surface you just have to slow down and be very aware of the traffic ahead and those idiots flying by you. We just go into the Detroit area last week and we will be leaving here sometime in January. Depending upon the weather I will either leave the day I plan or I will wait a few day for a better plan!