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- lanerdExplorer IIHumm.. I thought I answered, but I don't seem to see it anywhere. So, Tom... thanks for the info. I will have the fluid analyzed in three years and go from there.
thanks again
Ron - hzjcm8Explorer
ArchHoagland wrote:
It's my understanding that the diesel electrics in train locomotives never change their engine oil. They have a filter that is quite large and it gets changed but not the oil.
Could you shed some light on this?
ArchHoagland,
This could be possible but I'm not sure if it's true or not. I'll have to look into it for you. - ArchHoaglandExplorerIt's my understanding that the diesel electrics in train locomotives never change their engine oil. They have a filter that is quite large and it gets changed but not the oil.
Could you shed some light on this? - hzjcm8Explorer
lanerd wrote:
hzjcm8 wrote:
lanerd wrote:
Welcome Tom... my 08 Safari has the C7 CAT and a 3000mh (built in 07) Allison and as I read in an earlier post (and also in my Allison manual), I'm required to change both filters every 36 months and full fluid change every 48 month. When changing the filters, I will lose almost half of the fluid and am required to replace it (of course). When changing the fluid at 48 months, I assume I do not change the filters, but if I don't pull both filters I also assume I will not get the entire 19 qts (4" pan) to drain. I now have 27,000 miles and recently replaced both the filters and the 19 qts of Transynd. It seems strange to me that the filters are only good for 36 months and the fluid for 48. Will it be detrimental to the trans if I change both filters and fluid every 48 months, or should I change both every 36 months? Due to the price of Transynd, I would like to reduce the amount of good (and fresh) Transynd with the replacement of the lost fluid during the filter change.
thanks, and once again welcome.
Ron
Ron,
See my answer above to Wagonmaster2 about filters. This may help. If not, please keep asking and I'll try to deliver !!!
Ron,
Are you running Allison Gold Series filters or the High Capacity filters? Or are you running some "aftermarket" filters?
I'm using the high capacity part number 29545779. I purchased the Transynd and filter kit from a certified Allison dealer in Bakersfield CA.
Ron
Ron - hzjcm8Explorer
wagonmaster2 wrote:
Maybe I've missed an answer to this question in all the great responses but I was wondering how long to run the High Efficiency filters assuming the fluid analysis says the fluid is okay seeing as how Allison says to change the filters every 36 months?
Should the filters be changed every 36 months even if the fluid can be run 60-84 months, or even longer? Mileage only runs around 4,000-5,000 miles per year.
Wagonmaster2
2004 Meridian 36G Allison 3000 Cat C-7 330 HP
Wagonmaster2,
Here's the deal. I believe you can run filters longer but you'll need to run oil analysis and it "must" include particle count and should include ISO Cleanliness Code. Oil analysis will tell you all you need to know about the fluid life (provided you're also getting the TAN (Total Acid Number) information. The only thing a typical oil analysis won't tell you is how much debris (particles/millileter) and the size of the particles (micron sizes) that are circulating through your system. Allison filters are sized to pass finer particles (approximately 30 microns or smaller)so that the filters won't "load up" in a short amount of time. Anything above 30 microns should be trapped by the filter. Generally, the larger the particle, the less there are of them. Tiny particles (around 4-14 microns in size) are abundant in most systems. These tiny particles generally due little harm the transmission unless they are very hard particles like sand (which shows up as excessive "silicon") in an oil sample.
Bottom Line: All systems are different in the way the collect debris and your duty cycle and location are a big part of what gets picked up through the breather. So, filters are kind of difficult to manage. It can be done but it takes particle count data at a bare minimum to do it. Most folks may not want to take that on. - hzjcm8Explorer
lanerd wrote:
Did we scare poor Tom off with the multitude of questions?
Ron
Nope. Still here. Been watching grandchildren. I'll have to do this stuff by candle light in the evening !!!
I love helping out. Hope everyone thinks it's good stuff. ALso, I'll always tell you if I can't answer something. Remember, my primary area of expertise is Allison oil specs, oil formulations, oil and additives industry, lubricants, lubrication and oil and coolant analysis. - hzjcm8Explorer
sundancer268 wrote:
Is there a way to add the internal oil level sensor to my 3060 S/N 6510026852? This unit was manufactured in 1994 and installed in a Spartan Chassis for Gulf Stream. Thank you.
Sundancer268,
This question is out of my area of expertise. You'll need to call the Allison Tech Line at 1-800-252-5283.
Sorry !!! - lanerdExplorer IIDid we scare poor Tom off with the multitude of questions?
Ron - sundancer268ExplorerIs there a way to add the internal oil level sensor to my 3060 S/N 6510026852? This unit was manufactured in 1994 and installed in a Spartan Chassis for Gulf Stream. Thank you.
- wagonmaster2ExplorerMaybe I've missed an answer to this question in all the great responses but I was wondering how long to run the High Efficiency filters assuming the fluid analysis says the fluid is okay seeing as how Allison says to change the filters every 36 months?
Should the filters be changed every 36 months even if the fluid can be run 60-84 months, or even longer? Mileage only runs around 4,000-5,000 miles per year.
Wagonmaster2
2004 Meridian 36G Allison 3000 Cat C-7 330 HP
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