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Groover
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May 02, 2013

Misleading avertising/ignorant sales people

I am wondering how common misleading advertising and ignorant sales people are in this business after going through a recent episode.

I am looking for a reasonably priced and not too large motorhome that will pull a large SUV or 3-horse trailer. I got excited when I saw an add for a class C that appeared to fit the bill so I called the dealer. The salesperson said that they did not have any of the class C's in stock but had a class A (hence posting here) that is not super expensive and will pull 10K. It sounded good to me so I started reading the literature on the web. Sure enough, the brochure bragged in two places the the coach comes with a 10K hitch. I searced videos online and found one put out by a different dealer that bragged that this coach had a towing capacity that matches $400K coaches for a fraction of the price.

Knowing that there is more to towing than the trailer hitch I contacted the factory and asked specifically what the tow capacity was. It turns out that the dry weight is only 9,500lbs less than GCWR and the GCWR is only 3K less that GCWR. This means that the actual tow capacity is 3,000 to 9,500lbs, depending on your weight, how much fuel, water, passengers and gear you add. A realistic tow rating is around 5,000lbs if you don't load the coach excessively. My factory contact assured me that the sales people were carefully trained not to confuse hitch rating with tow rating. I beg to differ based on the evidence I came across.

Have any of you run into this sort of thing? Do you think that is was mis-leading? How many of you would really like to have a lower priced (still not cheap) motorhome that really will pull 10,000lbs or am I the only one? The interesting thing is that this coach is transmission limited. Surely it would not cost that much more for the chassis builder to put in a little sturdier transmission. I am thinking that the tow capacity would not be advertised so much if it was not a desireable feature.

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  • I have a 36' DP with a 330HP CAT and a Allison 6 speed tranny. Monaco rated the hitch at 5,000lbs. I wanted to tow my 3/4 ton Dodge diesel pickup. So, I called Monaco and they said if the truck is over 5,000lbs don't do it. The told me to call the rear end/axle manufacturer and I did. They said if you do tow more than 5,000lbs you better have a good Lawyer!!! Additionally, it would void the rear end/axle warranty immediately! So, I have been towing a Nissan XTerra 4X4 for 10 years, it weighs just 4,000 to 4,500 lbs, but it works.
  • As you already know from your post actual towing capacity is dependant on several things. You are looking at spending a chunk of change to get something that can actually tow over 5k#. You need to know and understand how to do this yourself (which you have already demonistrated) when investing in something that expensive. Don't expect dealers to even understand some of this stuff unfortunitely

    BTW there is no regular class C that can do over 5k# towing. You will need a super C or a larger (read DP) class A to do that.
  • Heheh, my 'little' 18k coach has a 10,000# hitch on it (per the label) and a small car would be about right.
  • Like most capacity ratings the rating is determined by the weakest component. When it comes to tow rating, it could be limited by hitch rating, drive train rating or frame construction. Sales people take advantage of peoples limited knowledge all the time.
  • lanerd wrote:
    Groover wrote:


    It turns out that the dry weight is only 9,500lbs less than GCWR and the GCWR is only 3K less that GCWR.


    Huh? :h

    Typo, the GVWR is only 3K less than the GCWR.
  • Groover wrote:


    It turns out that the dry weight is only 9,500lbs less than GCWR and the GCWR is only 3K less that GCWR.


    Huh? :h