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Aug 08, 2017

My Ford E350 running a bit hotter

I recently had one of my cylinder heads rebuilt and a new exhaust manifold installed, as well as a new radiator and thermostat - just got back from a trip to Colorado and there were several occasions when the MH temp gauge got up to the A and almost to the L (In NORMAL)...prior to this I don't remember the gauge ever going above R.

I was towing a Subaru and we had no troubles, except for this concern...it seemed to me that this was more related to transmission heat, which was confirmed when I started backing the coach into our driveway. It is a bit of an incline, in reverse, into our driveway and it started leaking tranny fluid from the bell housing plug. Pretty good leak, that stopped after I shut off the motor. Pulled the plug and started it up again in 20-30 minutes and no leak at all.

I'm thinking the transmission was running hotter than normal, and the front seal started leaking - probably even more pushed by the Reverse up the incline.

I'm trying to figure out a way to add a transmission cooler - lots of options and opinions...Any thoughts? I've checked out Tru-Cool, B&M, Hayden...also thinking about replacing the fan clutch...also, do you remove the existing cooler that is on the L side of the AC condenser (I guess it's stock)...

Thanks, ryan

I know I may have to replace the front seal, but I thought I might try to change the fluid/filter (BTW, the fluid is nice and red and doesn't smell burnt at all), install the cooler and see what happens first...

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Ford E350 running a bit hotter","id":"message:2720504","revisionNum":1,"repliesCount":64,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:24463"},"depth":0,"hasGivenKudo":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2720504"},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2720504"},"body":"I recently had one of my cylinder heads rebuilt and a new exhaust manifold installed, as well as a new radiator and thermostat - just got back from a trip to Colorado and there were several occasions when the MH temp gauge got up to the A and almost to the L (In NORMAL)...prior to this I don't remember the gauge ever going above R.

I was towing a Subaru and we had no troubles, except for this concern...it seemed to me that this was more related to transmission heat, which was confirmed when I started backing the coach into our driveway. It is a bit of an incline, in reverse, into our driveway and it started leaking tranny fluid from the bell housing plug. Pretty good leak, that stopped after I shut off the motor. Pulled the plug and started it up again in 20-30 minutes and no leak at all.

I'm thinking the transmission was running hotter than normal, and the front seal started leaking - probably even more pushed by the Reverse up the incline.

I'm trying to figure out a way to add a transmission cooler - lots of options and opinions...Any thoughts? I've checked out Tru-Cool, B&M, Hayden...also thinking about replacing the fan clutch...also, do you remove the existing cooler that is on the L side of the AC condenser (I guess it's stock)...

Thanks, ryan

I know I may have to replace the front seal, but I thought I might try to change the fluid/filter (BTW, the fluid is nice and red and doesn't smell burnt at all), install the cooler and see what happens first...","body@stringLength":"1550","rawBody":"I recently had one of my cylinder heads rebuilt and a new exhaust manifold installed, as well as a new radiator and thermostat - just got back from a trip to Colorado and there were several occasions when the MH temp gauge got up to the A and almost to the L (In NORMAL)...prior to this I don't remember the gauge ever going above R.

I was towing a Subaru and we had no troubles, except for this concern...it seemed to me that this was more related to transmission heat, which was confirmed when I started backing the coach into our driveway. It is a bit of an incline, in reverse, into our driveway and it started leaking tranny fluid from the bell housing plug. Pretty good leak, that stopped after I shut off the motor. Pulled the plug and started it up again in 20-30 minutes and no leak at all.

I'm thinking the transmission was running hotter than normal, and the front seal started leaking - probably even more pushed by the Reverse up the incline.

I'm trying to figure out a way to add a transmission cooler - lots of options and opinions...Any thoughts? I've checked out Tru-Cool, B&M, Hayden...also thinking about replacing the fan clutch...also, do you remove the existing cooler that is on the L side of the AC condenser (I guess it's stock)...

Thanks, ryan

I know I may have to replace the front seal, but I thought I might try to change the fluid/filter (BTW, the fluid is nice and red and doesn't smell burnt at all), install the cooler and see what happens first...","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-08-07T20:17:38.000-07:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3wxMHxfTlZffDE","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:Class C","text":"Class 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Great suggestions! A couple of things:

Same thermostat (195F) installed and it was a Motorcraft...

Radiator was an exact replacement - should be the same capacity, nothing got rearranged but I did not replace the lower and upper radiator hoses - they looked fine, but interestingly enough I noticed a very small drip coming from the lower radiator hose just yesterday. I did replace the 3\" bypass hose since I had the intake manifold off. Fan shroud is in place, but I need to check all the hoses etc...

One other observation - I had replaced the radiator a few weeks before I ended up pulling the head - so I had to redrain the coolant and I wanted to reuse it so I drained it in to some new drain pans and left it stored like that in my garage for a couple of weeks. Well, over that time it collected some bugs etc. so when I went to put it back in the radiator, I strained it and then filtered it thru some coffee filters. I'm wandering if this somehow affected the coolant? Just a thought...

I was advised to put a cooler thermostat (180F) in to \"compensate\" for having the head planed...not sure about that advice, but I didn't do it...","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-08-08T10:04:45.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-08-08T10:04:45.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":205},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:2720504/message:2720518","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1200","rawBody":"Thanks! Great suggestions! A couple of things:

Same thermostat (195F) installed and it was a Motorcraft...

Radiator was an exact replacement - should be the same capacity, nothing got rearranged but I did not replace the lower and upper radiator hoses - they looked fine, but interestingly enough I noticed a very small drip coming from the lower radiator hose just yesterday. I did replace the 3\" bypass hose since I had the intake manifold off. Fan shroud is in place, but I need to check all the hoses etc...

One other observation - I had replaced the radiator a few weeks before I ended up pulling the head - so I had to redrain the coolant and I wanted to reuse it so I drained it in to some new drain pans and left it stored like that in my garage for a couple of weeks. Well, over that time it collected some bugs etc. so when I went to put it back in the radiator, I strained it and then filtered it thru some coffee filters. I'm wandering if this somehow affected the coolant? Just a thought...

I was advised to put a cooler thermostat (180F) in to \"compensate\" for having the head planed...not sure about that advice, but I didn't do it...","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2720518_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:1377":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:1377","uid":1377,"login":"filrupmark","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2013-07-11T16:59:06.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-2.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:1377"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2720517":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2720517","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2720517":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:1377"},"id":"message:2720517","revisionNum":1,"uid":2720517,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2720504"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2720504"},"subject":"Re: My Ford E350 running a bit hotter","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2720517"},"body":"Check your timing. ******** timing will run hot . 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It used to be a matter of how many \"rows\" of tubes and fins. Now it can be the style and spacing of the them.

Did hose/connection arrangement get changed?

Is all the shrouding around Radiator and Fan back in place?

By all means, check for kinks in the cooling lines. But also, are the hoses new or re-used? I wonder if something came loose in the walls of the tubing and became an obstruction.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-08-08T08:51:52.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-08-08T08:51:52.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":205},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:2720504/message:2720516","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"490","rawBody":"Is the new radiator the same capacity as the one you replaced? It used to be a matter of how many \"rows\" of tubes and fins. Now it can be the style and spacing of the them.

Did hose/connection arrangement get changed?

Is all the shrouding around Radiator and Fan back in place?

By all means, check for kinks in the cooling lines. But also, are the hoses new or re-used? I wonder if something came loose in the walls of the tubing and became an obstruction.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2720516_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:317820":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:317820","uid":317820,"login":"ScottG","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2005-02-25T08:54:16.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:39"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:317820"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2720515":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2720515","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2720515":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:317820"},"id":"message:2720515","revisionNum":1,"uid":2720515,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2720504"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2720504"},"subject":"Re: My Ford E350 running a bit hotter","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2720515"},"body":"
navegator wrote:
Always use distilled water when refiling the radiator, tap water has to many minerals and salts, they tend to plug radiators and engine passages.

navegator


Excellent advice - NEVER use tap water, not even to flush.
Jugs of distilled water are cheap at the grocery store.
Learned this one the hard way.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-08-08T08:29:56.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-08-08T08:29:56.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":205},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:2720504/message:2720515","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"381","rawBody":"
navegator wrote:
Always use distilled water when refiling the radiator, tap water has to many minerals and salts, they tend to plug radiators and engine passages.

navegator


Excellent advice - NEVER use tap water, not even to flush.
Jugs of distilled water are cheap at the grocery store.
Learned this one the hard way.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2720515_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:233998":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:233998","uid":233998,"login":"garyhaupt","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2003-11-21T15:41:43.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-9.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:233998"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2720514":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2720514","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2720514":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:233998"},"id":"message:2720514","revisionNum":1,"uid":2720514,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2720504"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2720504"},"subject":"Re: My Ford E350 running a bit hotter","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2720514"},"body":"Been down this particular road and what I learned..after the coolers were installed..yes, two...was that one of the lines to/from the radiator had a crook in it. That bend went un-noticed until the underside cooler was being installed. Take a good long look for a kink in a line, before spending a bunch of cash on coolers and the like.

You have had some motor work done....take nothing to cause this.

Gary Haupt

on Edit...there are hundreds of thousands of these engine/tranny combos running around. You didn't have the problem before..and now you do. The answer to the problem is something simple.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-08-08T08:25:46.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-08-08T08:25:46.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":205},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:2720504/message:2720514","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"633","rawBody":"Been down this particular road and what I learned..after the coolers were installed..yes, two...was that one of the lines to/from the radiator had a crook in it. That bend went un-noticed until the underside cooler was being installed. Take a good long look for a kink in a line, before spending a bunch of cash on coolers and the like.

You have had some motor work done....take nothing to cause this.

Gary Haupt

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Don't think the ScanGuage will work, but I will try and user my laser temp gun to get some better readings (I did this once on the highway and around the thermostat housing temps were in the 225-235 range)...

I always use distilled water, but when I changed the coolant I just drained from the radiator - did not pull the engine block plugs...nor did I do any kind of flush.

The cooler installed now is a factory installed one - I'm pretty sure. It routes the coolant through the radiator as well - I'm assuming to allow the coolant to get warm enough in cold weather...I've read really conflicting opinions on whether an add-on cooler should be added in series with this one, or if you should just replace the factory one completely???


ryan","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-08-08T07:25:31.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-08-08T07:25:31.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":205},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:2720504/message:2720512","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"950","rawBody":"Sorry - not sure how I left off some info - posted the question late at night I guess...My coach is a 1993 Ford E350 with the 460 and E4OD transmission and 81k miles. Don't think the ScanGuage will work, but I will try and user my laser temp gun to get some better readings (I did this once on the highway and around the thermostat housing temps were in the 225-235 range)...

I always use distilled water, but when I changed the coolant I just drained from the radiator - did not pull the engine block plugs...nor did I do any kind of flush.

The cooler installed now is a factory installed one - I'm pretty sure. It routes the coolant through the radiator as well - I'm assuming to allow the coolant to get warm enough in cold weather...I've read really conflicting opinions on whether an add-on cooler should be added in series with this one, or if you should just replace the factory one completely???


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I run the tru-cool cooler and rarely see temps over 180, and that was fighting a mighty head wind across Texas in 100° temps. I left my stock cooler on there for about ten years, but removed it a couple of years ago with no difference in cooling.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-08-08T07:00:38.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-08-08T07:00:38.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":205},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:2720504/message:2720511","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"412","rawBody":"High tranny temps may cause fluid leakage from the front seal or the vent at the top of the transmission. Once cooled the seals will be OK in most cases.

I run the tru-cool cooler and rarely see temps over 180, and that was fighting a mighty head wind across Texas in 100° temps. I left my stock cooler on there for about ten years, but removed it a couple of years ago with no difference in cooling.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2720511_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:110611":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:110611","uid":110611,"login":"navegator","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2011-11-17T10:49:38.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-1.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:110611"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2720510":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2720510","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2720510":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:110611"},"id":"message:2720510","revisionNum":1,"uid":2720510,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2720504"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2720504"},"subject":"Re: My Ford E350 running a bit hotter","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2720510"},"body":"Always use distilled water when refiling the radiator, tap water has to many minerals and salts, they tend to plug radiators and engine passages.

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pauldub wrote:
You're doing a lot of guessing about water and tranny temps. Maybe the first step is to get a ScanGauge or equivalent so you can see what the temps really are.


X2

Without knowing precise temps of engine coolant and trans fluid everything is a guess.

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pauldub wrote:
You're doing a lot of guessing about water and tranny temps. Maybe the first step is to get a ScanGauge or equivalent so you can see what the temps really are.


X2

Without knowing precise temps of engine coolant and trans fluid everything is a guess.

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