Ford f150 Payload

Looking at F-150 to carry the Lance at 2750 dry. Sold my 2500HD, and need a short truck to fit in my garage. So, looked at GM 1500's, and payload says 1800-2200 lbs ... I thinking based on equipment and truck weight. So, it cannot haul that camper (Yeah, I knew that already pretty much) ... but GM does not offer a 2500 with regular cab and short bed - I thought if I beefed the suspension up it might work for the short trips we take now - and only a few days local. Probably not.

Someone here said F-150 hauls more -- so I'm looking at Ford site and it says F-150 payload 3375 ... that's a lot for a 150/1500 pickup. But when I go to find on on a search, I find highest payload at 2470 ... I know payload is based on some equipment options and weight, etc,., But a F150 at 3375??? I find that hard to believe. I've always been a GM guy so don't know much about Ford - any of you Ford guys know if that payload is true I don't want to go to a 250 because it will not fit in the garage, and I'm in a community so cannot just add-on to the garage, which I would otherwise do -- just build a port and wall, and park, I just want it out of the weather. Is that some special order high-payload or something. I can't even build it on the Ford site.

nickthehunter
Dec 03, 2023
Based upon my knowledge from when I was shopping for trucks 3 years ago; you could order a regular cab F150 XL 4X4 with the Heavy Duty Payload Package (HDPP), 18 inch wheels, and 8-foot bed. That would get you 4800 lbs rear GAWR and about 3000 lbs payload. You will likely exceed both ratings by about 250 lbs +/-; 4X2 will give you about 200 lbs more payload. That is as close as you will get to what you want in a 1/2 ton truck.
monkey44
Dec 05, 2023
Thx Grit-dog.. YEAH, I'm already going in a different direction ... It looked like the truck were getting more Payload, but as it turns out the specs were calling out specific other options, but exaggerating the potential as usual. I've been around truck campers a lot of years. That's why I do my homework first, and buy a truck second once I figure it out.

monkey44
Nomad II
Dec 24, 2023
Yup, it works - I always have trouble with new tech because I have limited tech experience - mostly helpful hints or trial and error. 2024 2500HD 4x4 Custom SB w/ 6.6 gas and Allison 10sp w 3:73. And 275 Twenty inch Wranglers ... Rides nice - haven't had it long enough to know mpg at this point.
rjstractor
Nomad
Dec 02, 2023
If the Lance is 2750 dry, its actual weight will be over 3000. Virtually all of a TC's weight will sit on the rear axle. I doubt there is an F150 in any payload configuration, especially a short bed, that can carry 3000 pounds on the rear axle without grossly overloading it. The only possible exception would be the 7850 GVWR version, which is only available in a long bed, regular cab configuration-about the same length as a short bed extended cab truck which is available in a HD model.
Cybergrunt
Nomad
Nov 30, 2023
Ford has (had?) a Heavy Duty Payload option for F-150s. It is comprised of 3.73-geared electronic-locking rear axle, 9.75-inch gearset, 36-gallon fuel tank (except XL regular cab models), LT265/70R18C OWL all-terrain tires, upgraded springs, and unique 18-inch silver-painted aluminum wheels.
This link might help you peel back the numbers and the HD option: https://fordauthority.com/2021/06/heres-what-the-heavy-duty-payload-package-does-for-the-2021-ford-f-150/
nickthehunter
Nomad II
Dec 03, 2023
In order to adequately answer your question, we need to know what size truck will fit in your garage. We don’t know if your limitation is height, width, length, combination of all of these, or what.
I would also point out that the response in the preceding post “virtually all of the TC’s weight will sit on the rear axle” is patently false in my opinion. I would guess that at least 10% of the weight will be on the front axle (depending on how the TC is built and loaded). That is not “virtually all” in my lexicon (YOMV).
- monkey44
  Nomad II
  Dec 03, 2023
  I tried to find a single cab short bed GM, but it's not built in a 2500 anymore, only 1500. Looked at Ford, same thing. I sold my 2500HD Dbl Cab SB because it's too big. Should have researched first, but didn't - my own fault. Now am trying to figure out how to resolve it. The only GM with single cab 2500 is LB, which camper won't fit, and is almost as long as the Dbl Cab. I mostly want to get away from the Dbl Cab models, and just go with a single cab short bed 4x4. Seems like Mfgs are getting away from trucks, and into family level vehicles with a bed. I don't like them particularly, and my family is grown, gone, and only me camping, sometimes wife sometimes not. For the cost, Dbl Cab and Crew cab are a waste of money and space for me today, especially if no kids.
  I've been truck camping all over this country for over twenty years - I want to shrink the truck. But buying both a new truck and a lighter camper is not on the table. At one time maybe, but at today's costs, not happening. Camper is Lance 845 and in great shape, under cover most of its life.. I'm just trying to investigate my options before I make a choice. The 2024 Sierra 1500 will care 2200 lbs -- camper dry is 2750. -- 3000 wet -- I'm also looking at beefing up the suspension as a possibility, it's not that much difference, but also do not want to run at the max either. I would beef up the tires to 10 play for sure, and add helper springs - heavier shocks front and rear - just not sure that's enough. I travel short distances now - 300-400 miles, not cross country - and live in Florida - no mountains. It's a dilemma I created for myself - am looking for some experienced info here, which is the best place to get it. Not sure what I can do with rear axle and bearings ???
  - Grit_dog
    Navigator
    Dec 05, 2023
    You need to re-think your plan.
    A. A 3klb TC in any half ton, much less a rcsb truck (rare but you could probably order one. Definitely not with a heavy payload option though, even though a heavy half is still too light duty) is basically a non starter.
    B. No mfg has ever made a rcsb 3/4 or 1 ton. So it’s not just that one isn’t made “now.”
    C. If your only reason for getting a short bed is due to a camper that is supposedly short bed only, you can put it in a long bed and block it back far enough for the overhang to clear. And you’ll have extra storage space up front.
groover1
Explorer
Dec 10, 2023
Ford is no longer accepting orders for 2023 F150's and it seems that the max payload package is not going to offered in 2024. The 2024 towing guide has not been released yet but the some dealers are publishing the following specs for the 2024 F150:

Best-in-class maximum towing capacity of 13,500 pounds
Best-in-class available payload of 2,455 pounds
Ford has copyrighted the F200 moniker. Nothing is certain other than that but I am hoping for 9,000lb gvwr truck with 8 lug wheels and a hybrid engine.
The LT265/70R18C tires are no longer available either. To get maximum towing you have been required to get 20" tires anyway. I have the LT265/70R18C tires on my 2016 F150 and really like them. I don't understand why they are no longer offered.
- Grit_dog
  Navigator
  Dec 10, 2023
  Except it doesn’t matter. You can get the same truck, same axle, etc. If they don’t claim 3klb payload any more, it’s just different marketing.
  why would you want a 9klb 8 lug? Lol
  - monkey44
    Nomad II
    Dec 10, 2023
    Yeah, I'm looking at 2500HD at the moment. Should have known it before I started, actually, did know it, just forced myself to look lighter. 😞 Not liking the cost, but RV's, like boats, act sorta like a hole we toss money into in order to have fun doing it. 🙂
COnative
Explorer II
Dec 15, 2023
What model # of Lance are you talking about? I've got some real numbers for the 865. I have it on a Ram 3500 with 6.7.
opnspaces
Navigator II
Dec 25, 2023
That's a sharp looking truck.

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