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monkey44
Nomad II
Nov 30, 2023
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Ford f150 Payload

Looking at F-150 to carry the Lance at 2750 dry.  Sold my 2500HD, and need a short truck to fit in my garage.  So, looked at GM 1500's, and payload says 1800-2200 lbs ... I thinking based on equipmen...
  • nickthehunter's avatar
    nickthehunter
    Dec 03, 2023

    Based upon my knowledge from when I was shopping for trucks 3 years ago; you could order a regular cab F150 XL 4X4 with the Heavy Duty Payload Package (HDPP), 18 inch wheels, and 8-foot bed. That would get you 4800 lbs rear GAWR and about 3000 lbs payload. You will likely exceed both ratings by about 250 lbs +/-; 4X2 will give you about 200 lbs more payload. That is as close as you will get to what you want in a 1/2 ton truck.

  • monkey44's avatar
    monkey44
    Dec 05, 2023

    Thx Grit-dog.. YEAH, I'm already going in a different direction ...  It looked like the truck were getting more Payload, but as it turns out the specs were calling out specific other options, but exaggerating the potential as usual.  I've been around truck campers a lot of years. That's why I do my homework first, and buy a truck second once I figure it out.  

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groover1
Explorer
Dec 10, 2023

Ford is no longer accepting orders for 2023 F150's and it seems that the max payload package is not going to offered in 2024.  The 2024 towing guide has not been released yet but the some dealers are publishing the following specs for the 2024 F150:

 

  • Best-in-class maximum towing capacity of 13,500 pounds
  • Best-in-class available payload of 2,455 pounds

Ford has copyrighted the F200 moniker.  Nothing is certain other than that but I am hoping for 9,000lb gvwr truck with 8 lug wheels and a hybrid engine.  

The LT265/70R18C tires are no longer available either.  To get maximum towing you have been required to get 20" tires anyway.  I have the LT265/70R18C tires on my 2016 F150 and really like them.  I don't understand why they are no longer offered.

  • Grit_dog's avatar
    Grit_dog
    Navigator
    Dec 10, 2023

    Except it doesn’t matter. You can get the same truck, same axle, etc. If they don’t claim 3klb payload any more, it’s just different marketing. 
    why would you want a 9klb 8 lug? Lol

     

    • monkey44's avatar
      monkey44
      Nomad II
      Dec 10, 2023

      Yeah, I'm looking at 2500HD at the moment.  Should have known it before I started, actually, did know it, just forced myself to look lighter.   😞     Not liking the cost, but RV's, like boats, act sorta like a hole we toss money into in order to have fun doing it.  🙂   

    • groover1's avatar
      groover1
      Explorer
      Dec 11, 2023

      The max payload package came with a frame that was about 200lbs heavier and a sturdier rear axle.  For years the 3.73 rear axle and the max payload package came together.  The miniscule difference in the gearing between 3.55 and 3.73 axles doesn't justify having a different axle, it is the weight capacity of each that is important.

      "why would you want a 9klb 8 lug? Lol"   Simple.  I actually prefer the F150 EcoBoost over a 3/4 ton for my business but the IRS won't let me write of an F150 as a business expense.  Go 8,800 lbs or more and it is no problem.  Actually, the PowerBoost would be very attractive.  I have tried both diesel and gas 3/4 ton trucks pulling my 12,000lb trailer and wasn't impressed with either on for the short trips that I do.  

      • Grit_dog's avatar
        Grit_dog
        Navigator
        Dec 11, 2023

        Fair enough. But the additional 8-9% increase in section modulus between a HD frame and HDPP frame is nothing that will limit the HD from anything a HDPP might be rated for in payload. 
        And the 9.75” axle is common in all but the LD models. 
        The HDPP was really just a complication without a good purpose. 
        Regarding depreciation or expenses for the IRS, there are thousands of companies that write off hundreds of thousands of light duty half tons. Maybe just not your preferred depreciation or expenses scenario. 
        Again, seems like small potatoes and not much reason to have a “mini” 3/4ton. 
        Plus, if I was tugging around a 12klb trailer regularly, I’d just get the right truck to begin with. 

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