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Kayteg1
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Mar 12, 2020

My Sprinter stealth ClasB

Hi, I am having 19 yold Lance truck camper and when I could not sell it for reasonable price (50% of NADA) I decided to use good interior for new conversion and dispose faded body.
Pictures will be coming as I already have rear dinette and shower stall installed, but would love to hear opinions about few technical dilemmas.
So I don't want propane on board, meaning all appliances will run on electricity. With bus version I have 250 amp alternator and dual AC, so I don't anticipate any power issues while on the road, when on hot days I can run the engine for some time, I have following dilemmas:
1- did anybody tried to keep refrigerator running overnight on 2 battery power?
2-how long 150W electric element takes to heat water in standard w/h? I've been using electricity for water heating in my previous RVs, but having campground hookup, I never actually timed it.
3-I plan to use camper transfer switch where inverter would be default and once I plug shore power, the relay will switch
4- no toilet on the conversion, so I am putting porta-potty inside the shower. So far a try shows that I need to lose some weight to make it working. How guys having porta-potty in van manage its use while having other people?
5-with gray water tank only I don't want to make 3" water dump. What are the smaller options?


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  • pianotuna's avatar
    pianotuna
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    Mar 15, 2020
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    Keytag1,

    I love my NuWave induction cooker. They are more efficient and that's always desirable. The best feature is being able to move the temperature by as little as 5 f. Add a dutch oven and bingo out jumps a slow cooker.
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    Kayteg1
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    Mar 15, 2020
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    I have 1000W inverter generator as well. Even I have big Honda for years, when fellow forum member gave a tip about HD having them on sale for $150, I just could not refuse to buy it ;).
    For years I have propane burner that screws on top of small cylinder.
    Used it on the boat, but one time, while cooking on the beach my wife kicked the pot over.
    So potatoes were extra crispy that day . Only lately I found I can buy enlarged shoe for the cylinders.
    Even I have electric cooktop, I never used it in RV. I found out my favorite is toaster/oven, where I can bake kielbasa, zucchini, onions and tomatoes, while potatoes are easy to bake in microwave.
    So I plan to carry those 2 units in this van, although they will have to go under the bed for travel.
    I already build smaller cabinet on driver side, who will have to serve as wardrobe, leaving narrow side for shelving. Maybe small appliances will fit there for travel and countertop will be good place for using them.
  • JimBollman's avatar
    JimBollman
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    Mar 15, 2020
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    I have an all electric B that I bought 2 years ago and still sorting out the occasional time that I don't have electric hookup. Haven't tried to push how long the compressor refrigerator will go on my one battery, I intend to add a second but I think that still will only get me about a day. When I know I am going to be off grid I carry a small 1000W inverter generator to recharge as needed.

    I solved the cooking problem with a small Butane stove, doesn't take up much room and I carry a few extra cylinders. The one I bought below, can also be used with propane and I cary the adapter but no cylinders, I can buy them anywhere if I run low on Butane.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LW87Z9O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
  • Kayteg1's avatar
    Kayteg1
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    Mar 13, 2020
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    So this is my set before doing electrical.
    Another question. I want to put 6 belts in the dinette, who is going to be elevated.
    Sprinter has 2 factory anchors I can use for belts with M12 (about 1/2") threaded holes on the side, what is good. Than the bus had wheelchair lift installed and the converter add 2 more anchors on the sides, but in 7/16" diameter. Than I have grab bars in the rear with M8 factory anchors.
    When I don't intend to make the van having full rollover ratings, the 7/16" added anchors seem to be on weak size?
  • Kayteg1's avatar
    Kayteg1
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    Mar 13, 2020
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    Thanks for all the info.
    My goal is to reuse parts from old camper and the big Dometic fridge performs pretty well, that's why I am reusing it.
    Don't know about alternator duty cycle. The bus has electric cabin heater as well and even I can't find precise data, it has to be >1000W.
    I hope that working in cooled interior loop, the fridge will have to work less, than with original set, what was circulating air with triple digits temperatures around the coils.
    Lot of the stuff goes under elevated dinette floor. Water tank is on driver side, so I put w/h and battery on passenger side. W/h running on electric doesn't need any vent beside safety valve drain, when battery is a type with venting tube that will go thru the floor.
    Now I am working on electric panel. Original is having pretty big converter, but I am planning to use it. I plan to stuff it deeper under the dinette, only with access to front panel, but in case of any bigger problems I will have to take dinette off (about 1 hr) to make access. I think this will be acceptable.
    Just to make it clear, I am making the conversion with fast trips in mind, not prolonged dry camping.
  • pianotuna's avatar
    pianotuna
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    Mar 13, 2020
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    Measured duty cycle on my absorption fridge is 2:3. i.e. on for 40 minutes and off for 20. This doesn't seem to vary with ambient temperatures much.

    It takes mine about 7 hours to cool down--duty cycle of 1:1

    Once it starts to cycle energy demand is 5.7 KWH per day.

    I suggest getting a danfoss compressor unit--one that runs on 12 volts so there will not be inverter losses.
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    pianotuna
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    Alternators are often a 1/3 duty cycle. What is the continuous rating?

    250 amps--at 12 volts is only 3000 watts. If it is 1/3 duty cycle then only 1000 may be used continuously.
  • pianotuna's avatar
    pianotuna
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    Mar 13, 2020
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    Hi,

    150 watts = 511 BTU's.

    For one gallon of water 8.34 pounds.

    1 btu per pound per degree.

    delta T 60 f (yielding water at 120 f)

    60 x 8.34 = 500

    So it would take about an hour if you had a "perfect" insulator around the tank.

    But one gallon is simply not enough.

    In real life my 10 gallon with a 1400 watt element takes about 90 minutes to finish heating (first cycle to off).

    About every four hours, if no water is drawn, it cycles on for 15 minutes.

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Pictures will be coming as I already have rear dinette and shower stall installed, but would love to hear opinions about few technical dilemmas.
So I don't want propane on board, meaning all appliances will run on electricity. With bus version I have 250 amp alternator and dual AC, so I don't anticipate any power issues while on the road, when on hot days I can run the engine for some time, I have following dilemmas:
1- did anybody tried to keep refrigerator running overnight on 2 battery power?
2-how long 150W electric element takes to heat water in standard w/h? I've been using electricity for water heating in my previous RVs, but having campground hookup, I never actually timed it.
3-I plan to use camper transfer switch where inverter would be default and once I plug shore power, the relay will switch
4- no toilet on the conversion, so I am putting porta-potty inside the shower. So far a try shows that I need to lose some weight to make it working. How guys having porta-potty in van manage its use while having other people?
5-with gray water tank only I don't want to make 3\" water dump. What are the smaller options?


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Pictures will be coming as I already have rear dinette and shower stall installed, but would love to hear opinions about few technical dilemmas.
So I don't want propane on board, meaning all appliances will run on electricity. With bus version I have 250 amp alternator and dual AC, so I don't anticipate any power issues while on the road, when on hot days I can run the engine for some time, I have following dilemmas:
1- did anybody tried to keep refrigerator running overnight on 2 battery power?
2-how long 150W electric element takes to heat water in standard w/h? I've been using electricity for water heating in my previous RVs, but having campground hookup, I never actually timed it.
3-I plan to use camper transfer switch where inverter would be default and once I plug shore power, the relay will switch
4- no toilet on the conversion, so I am putting porta-potty inside the shower. So far a try shows that I need to lose some weight to make it working. How guys having porta-potty in van manage its use while having other people?
5-with gray water tank only I don't want to make 3\" water dump. What are the smaller options?


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For years I have propane burner that screws on top of small cylinder.
Used it on the boat, but one time, while cooking on the beach my wife kicked the pot over.
So potatoes were extra crispy that day . Only lately I found I can buy enlarged shoe for the cylinders.
Even I have electric cooktop, I never used it in RV. I found out my favorite is toaster/oven, where I can bake kielbasa, zucchini, onions and tomatoes, while potatoes are easy to bake in microwave.
So I plan to carry those 2 units in this van, although they will have to go under the bed for travel.
I already build smaller cabinet on driver side, who will have to serve as wardrobe, leaving narrow side for shelving. Maybe small appliances will fit there for travel and countertop will be good place for using them.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-03-15T08:00:43.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-03-15T08:00:43.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":346},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:3382470/message:3382484","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:125608":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:125608","uid":125608,"login":"JimBollman","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2006-08-31T04:50:12.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-11.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:125608"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3382483":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3382483","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3382483":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:125608"},"id":"message:3382483","revisionNum":1,"uid":3382483,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3382470"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3382470"},"subject":"Re: My Sprinter stealth ClasB","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3382483"},"body":"I have an all electric B that I bought 2 years ago and still sorting out the occasional time that I don't have electric hookup. Haven't tried to push how long the compressor refrigerator will go on my one battery, I intend to add a second but I think that still will only get me about a day. When I know I am going to be off grid I carry a small 1000W inverter generator to recharge as needed.

I solved the cooking problem with a small Butane stove, doesn't take up much room and I carry a few extra cylinders. The one I bought below, can also be used with propane and I cary the adapter but no cylinders, I can buy them anywhere if I run low on Butane.
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So this is my set before doing electrical.
Another question. I want to put 6 belts in the dinette, who is going to be elevated.
Sprinter has 2 factory anchors I can use for belts with M12 (about 1/2\") threaded holes on the side, what is good. Than the bus had wheelchair lift installed and the converter add 2 more anchors on the sides, but in 7/16\" diameter. Than I have grab bars in the rear with M8 factory anchors.
When I don't intend to make the van having full rollover ratings, the 7/16\" added anchors seem to be on weak size?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-03-13T13:07:57.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-03-13T13:07:57.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":345},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:3382470/message:3382482","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3382481":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3382481","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3382481":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:183893"},"id":"message:3382481","revisionNum":1,"uid":3382481,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3382470"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3382470"},"subject":"Re: My Sprinter stealth ClasB","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3382481"},"body":"Thanks for all the info.
My goal is to reuse parts from old camper and the big Dometic fridge performs pretty well, that's why I am reusing it.
Don't know about alternator duty cycle. The bus has electric cabin heater as well and even I can't find precise data, it has to be >1000W.
I hope that working in cooled interior loop, the fridge will have to work less, than with original set, what was circulating air with triple digits temperatures around the coils.
Lot of the stuff goes under elevated dinette floor. Water tank is on driver side, so I put w/h and battery on passenger side. W/h running on electric doesn't need any vent beside safety valve drain, when battery is a type with venting tube that will go thru the floor.
Now I am working on electric panel. Original is having pretty big converter, but I am planning to use it. I plan to stuff it deeper under the dinette, only with access to front panel, but in case of any bigger problems I will have to take dinette off (about 1 hr) to make access. I think this will be acceptable.
Just to make it clear, I am making the conversion with fast trips in mind, not prolonged dry camping.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-03-13T08:44:25.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-03-13T08:44:25.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":173},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:3382470/message:3382481","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3382480":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3382480","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3382480":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:36953"},"id":"message:3382480","revisionNum":1,"uid":3382480,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3382470"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3382470"},"subject":"Re: My Sprinter stealth ClasB","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3382480"},"body":"Measured duty cycle on my absorption fridge is 2:3. i.e. on for 40 minutes and off for 20. This doesn't seem to vary with ambient temperatures much.

It takes mine about 7 hours to cool down--duty cycle of 1:1

Once it starts to cycle energy demand is 5.7 KWH per day.

I suggest getting a danfoss compressor unit--one that runs on 12 volts so there will not be inverter losses.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-03-12T20:13:59.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-03-12T20:13:59.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":148},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:3382470/message:3382480","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3382479":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3382479","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3382479":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:36953"},"id":"message:3382479","revisionNum":1,"uid":3382479,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3382470"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3382470"},"subject":"Re: My Sprinter stealth ClasB","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3382479"},"body":"Alternators are often a 1/3 duty cycle. What is the continuous rating?

250 amps--at 12 volts is only 3000 watts. If it is 1/3 duty cycle then only 1000 may be used continuously.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"180","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-03-12T20:10:46.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-03-12T20:10:46.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":149},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:3382470/message:3382479","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3382478":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3382478","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3382478":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:36953"},"id":"message:3382478","revisionNum":1,"uid":3382478,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3382470"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3382470"},"subject":"Re: My Sprinter stealth ClasB","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3382478"},"body":"Hi,

150 watts = 511 BTU's.

For one gallon of water 8.34 pounds.

1 btu per pound per degree.

delta T 60 f (yielding water at 120 f)

60 x 8.34 = 500

So it would take about an hour if you had a \"perfect\" insulator around the tank.

But one gallon is simply not enough.

In real life my 10 gallon with a 1400 watt element takes about 90 minutes to finish heating (first cycle to off).

About every four hours, if no water is drawn, it cycles on for 15 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