turbojimmy wrote:
Malakie wrote:
On top of that, my instincts and the information I have access to are telling me we are coming up on a major event in this country, probably economic collapse or something that leads or causes it. (here is something you may want to listen to.. http://pro.moneymappress.com/MMRBSLG39EXT/LMMRQ9AV/?h=true)
Because of this, buying a house right now was not something I was ready to do because I do not know how all of this is going to play out.. I felt it was more important right now to get settled on some land, make arrangements for food and water supply and be prepared to take care of my own when it happens without needing to run to the grocery store to resupply. I have about 6 months worth of supplies right now stored. What worries me is it will not be enough before things stabilize again.. What I DO believe though using both common sense and information I have access to because of my background, we are headed for a major collapse in this country, and perhaps around the world, economically. Anyone that does not realize that is only fooling themselves..
If your motivation for all of this is to prepare for some sort of collapse of society, presumably accompanied by civil unrest, I'm not sure a motorhome is your best choice. It's pretty easily penetrated, German Shepherd or not, and fairly well exposed to the elements as well as people that might be more heavily armed than you. There's always someone with a bigger gun.
You have 6 months of provisions stashed. How do you plan to get them from wherever they're stored to the motorhome?
While the idea of being able to jet on a few minutes notice is a plus of the motorhome idea, in the instance of the events you describe it would be difficult to get it fueled up. You will have such a limited range that the portability of a motorhome becomes a liability more than anything else.
Plus, in hunkering down in a manner that will keep you warm you will pretty much make the unit difficult to move in a hurry. Further, with the world collapsing around them, I doubt the propane delivery guy would put you on the top of his priority list.
If your goal really is to prepare for and survive a cataclysmic collapse of the world as we know it, trying to do it in an RV is not a great choice. Yeah the guy on the Walking Dead did pretty good in his Winnebago for a while, but in the end it didn't work out well.
Given your goal, I would recommend a more permanent, hardened, insulated structure that you can survive in for an extended period of time. An old motor home doesn't fit the bill.
Just my opinion. YMMV.
I agree with you. However the reason I went this way for now is time. 1) Needed a place to live as it was anyhow. Searched, as I mentioned previous, for a place back home here for a few weeks with no luck at all. 2) It will take time and money to find a house with land or build a house I want. 3) I will not, cannot live in a city.
Thus the decision to buy some land and park setting this up for the short term to live in at minimal cost. By doing this I have slowed things down so I can take my time and either find or build what I want.
The part about being motivated about what is coming is only PART of the whole. In the decision that was part of it and the primary reason we decided to buy some land instead of staying in RV parks full time. We are away from people AND any kind of 'being on the grid' requirement. It allows us to be fully self sustained without anyone getting in our business because we are on our own property.
In terms of defense. I have no intention of using it as a defensible structure by any means. If things would come to that level, I won't be sitting inside waiting to be trapped. Remember I am pretty well trained and while I do not discuss my actual methods, means or abilities, I am not worried about that at all. If I have to kit up and bug out, I am all set already for that contingency. No an RV is not a solution from that point of view. BUT it will buy us some time being isolated and self sufficient.
Our supplies are here. We do not have to go anywhere. I am not going to discuss where I keep them or how they are stored but everything we need, whether food, ammo or gear is close by.
If the world goes to hell, the RV becomes a liability not a requirement of survival. Think of it from my point of view.. It has given us the time to plan what and how we want to fully settle down while not costing an arm and a leg right now. AND since my personal opinion is that our economy cannot sustain itself which means it WILL collapse, making a large purchase right now is not something I am ready to do. I am instead using my ready cash to buy those things I think are going to be more in need and more important when the system does tank.. I.E. food, water purification, clothing for seasons, ammo, and other things (toilet paper for example LOL) that will not be available for quite some time.
IF things go to crap, the RV will buy us some time to better figure out what to do, where to go or how to remain out of the chaos that will ensue. The RV is only a temporary thing either way because we do plan on buying or building should somehow the economy not collapse, all the debt load disappear and the economy come back to a positive. Doing the RV thing has allowed us a freedom to slow down and make choices at a pace we are not rushed (other than getting ready for winter).
Our 'bug out' plan does not include the RV. We have something else for that that is setup specifically for that and is four wheel drive as well. Our bug out location for now is also a much safer, more defensible and livable place as well but again, that is not something I talk about.
As for the propane.. that is why I have modified the RV with a Y adapter. We can hook in two 100 gallon propane tanks that are portable. We will not be using the internal tank unless it is absolutely down to the need.. i.e. propane is no longer available and both portables are empty. Keep in mind with the ceramic heating units we use, we will still have heat albeit we won't be able to heat into the 70's with just those. But they easily keep the temps from freezing in side as we have learned this past week.
Ultimately, it is a number of things that caused me to make this decision. And being prepared for what I think is coming is just one of them that directs some of the decisions. BUT it is not the main or full reason for this decision.. just part of it.
I am not into all that conspiracy stuff... Not by any means. But as a veteran, a reasonable intelligent person and someone with common sense, I can very easily see what is going on and when you put all the facts together, there is no way we can get out of some kind of major economic collapse in this country.. We have over a $127 TRILLION debt load.. which much of the public is not even paying attention to.. They hear $17 trillion being said publicly.. .but that is not the truth because it does NOT include ALL programs, entitlements, interest and other things.. You can google and look it up, don't take my word for it..
The country no longer brings in more money than is being spent.. which means we cannot even make interest payments without PRINTING more paper. There is much more to this but you get the idea.. it is NOT sustainable and so MY common sense tells me, get ready because when the balloon pops, it is not going to be pretty... MOST people have no idea how to live off the land or survive without the government, without grocery stores, without others to produce what they need.. and when trucks stop moving goods, when people cannot afford to pay $50 for a loaf of bread.. well you get the idea.
