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FIRE_UP
Explorer
Jul 20, 2015

OK, question for you "A/C" experts

OK gang,
This is for you EXERTS that know air conditioning and, all aspects of it. Below is a picture of the A/C condenser and, the electric fan that provides air for cooling of it. You'll see that the fan, has NO SHROUD (that is of value). Now, in most, if not all, radiator situations, on just about every car, truck, air plane, space ship etc. that have ever been built, there is a real shroud that encompasses the entire radiator fin area and, it's also usually very close to the tips of the fan blades.

All that means that, the fan can pull (or possibly push) air through the fins, ALL THE FINS, making the cooling effects much more efficient, than what I think is going on in the picture below.

In reality, if you look at the picture closely, it appears that I may have as much as 25-30% of that condenser that it not actively having air forced through it, due the fact that there's no real shroud involved.

Our coach, an '04 Itasca Horizon 36GD with the C-7 330HP CAT, has basement air conditioning style on the passenger side rear compartment and, the dash air system on the same rear compartment, on the drivers side. The dash air conditioning system does work and, it works just OK. I just had it evacked (is that a word?)and re-charged. The folks that did the work stated that there is no leaks.

So, I'm wondering, does anyone think that, it would be worth the effort to somehow, fabricate up, a shroud that would encompass ALL the fins in that condenser? Does anyone think that, it would improve the efficiency and therefor, the cooling process of the R-134A in that system. And therefore, if your efficiency is improved, it should, I SAY SHOULD.....POSSIBLY.... get us colder air, emanating from the dash A/C ducts?????

Scott


13 Replies

  • Is the radiator and engine driven radiator fan mounted in front of that condenser? If so no I wouldn't recommend any shroud as it would just help to block cooling airflow.
  • Scott, what I see is that it does have a Small one. Turn it off and you will notice how much it is cooling. The spot cooling does more than one thinks. I did what you are thanking many years ago and what I got in return was no many degrees drop for what I spent to try to get it better. Back in the 60/70s you could get a mister that sprayed a mist and cool down some. The draw back was rusty nuts if you did not get them adjusted correct.
  • Ivylog's avatar
    Ivylog
    Explorer III
    It appears the fan blade tips have a small shroud. I rarely have to run my roof airs and here are the things I've done to mine to make it work very well, even doing the second part: Make sure your heater valve is shutting all of the hot water off... even adding a manual valve up front. Pull the cap tube most of the way our of the evaporator... even putting a fuse in the plug for it so the compressor runs all of the time.
    On a previous MH I added a set of misters in front of the condenser fan so when I turned on the water pump it helped cool the condenser which in AZ would work very well.
    Ebay $30 and I would do these three things before building a shroud.


    You could also add a pair of rear window rain guards to your grill to force air in... one at each edge of the fan.