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They are pretty up-front about condition, but they have NOT reconditioned them.
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I am wondering if it's worth a trip from So Cal to look at a couple of motorhomes. I have seen a couple on their site that interest me, but I am reluctant to fly there based on pictures alone. I would appreciate hearing about your experience, would you buy from them again? Should I pay a few thousand more and buy locally???? It's a long way to go based on a picture.
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Berner2 wrote: Have any of you ever purchased through PPL? I am wondering if it's worth a trip from So Cal to look at a couple of motorhomes.
Yes - Bought mine a few years ago from PPL and have been back for parts, minor service and wandered through the lot a few times just to see what's out there on consignment.
The operation's run the same as before. If the consignee DOES NOT choose to spend the $450 (may be more now) to prep the MH for sale, then you'll get dirty carpets, etc. PPL does a good job prepping the MHs for sale by cleaning them up and noting items that should be fixed to aid in the sale. For me, as a buyer, they identified a refrigerator that was failing and had the seller replace it! So - what you see is what you get.
You can also have your own inspector come on site to do an inspection if you don't want to use PPL. For the \"house\" inspection, that's not an issue. However, unless they've changes their policy, you won't be able to remove the vehicle from the premises for a \"vehicle\" inspection.
If you can identify two or three units that you're really interested in, call PPL at the last minute to make sure they're still available (maybe on Saturday afternoon), ask that they be put on hold, fly out on Sunday and take a look at them Monday morning. That way you'll be sure that they won't be sold out from under you before you have a chance to look at them.
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Berner2 wrote: Have any of you ever purchased through PPL? I am wondering if it's worth a trip from So Cal to look at a couple of motorhomes.
Yes - Bought mine a few years ago from PPL and have been back for parts, minor service and wandered through the lot a few times just to see what's out there on consignment.
The operation's run the same as before. If the consignee DOES NOT choose to spend the $450 (may be more now) to prep the MH for sale, then you'll get dirty carpets, etc. PPL does a good job prepping the MHs for sale by cleaning them up and noting items that should be fixed to aid in the sale. For me, as a buyer, they identified a refrigerator that was failing and had the seller replace it! So - what you see is what you get.
You can also have your own inspector come on site to do an inspection if you don't want to use PPL. For the \"house\" inspection, that's not an issue. However, unless they've changes their policy, you won't be able to remove the vehicle from the premises for a \"vehicle\" inspection.
If you can identify two or three units that you're really interested in, call PPL at the last minute to make sure they're still available (maybe on Saturday afternoon), ask that they be put on hold, fly out on Sunday and take a look at them Monday morning. That way you'll be sure that they won't be sold out from under you before you have a chance to look at them.
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Mr.Mark wrote: bspilot and 2112... so that is one vote for slides OUT and one for slides IN. I heard that they keep them out and stand corrected if I'm wrong.
I do know that they don't plug their untis in because my friend who consigned and sold his National had lots of solar on the roof. The salesman told him his was one of the units that would start every time, others had to be jumped.
PPL is a good place, I didn't want my coach scortching in the sun without the air on. PPL charges 10%, MOT charges 8%.
MM.
last time i was down there it was so packed there was barely room to walk between the coaches - either way - in or out i don't see a problem w/ it. If the slides were only partially deployed, sure thats a problem, but thats not how PPL works.
PPL his acres and acres of units - theres not enough electricity in the world to plug 'em all in....think open storage lot....MOT is a boutique dealer - if they have 60 units at a time id be surprised.
given the geographic location of MOT vs PPL i could see them being able to charge 2% difference.
both are great places - with good reputations, but theyre VERY different at the same time.
Personally if i was gonna consign a unit - id do it at MOT....less traffic, but also the lot is better monitored by sales too.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-02-28T07:18:44.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-02-28T07:18:44.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":455},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1665550/message:1665580","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1399","rawBody":"
Mr.Mark wrote: bspilot and 2112... so that is one vote for slides OUT and one for slides IN. I heard that they keep them out and stand corrected if I'm wrong.
I do know that they don't plug their untis in because my friend who consigned and sold his National had lots of solar on the roof. The salesman told him his was one of the units that would start every time, others had to be jumped.
PPL is a good place, I didn't want my coach scortching in the sun without the air on. PPL charges 10%, MOT charges 8%.
MM.
last time i was down there it was so packed there was barely room to walk between the coaches - either way - in or out i don't see a problem w/ it. If the slides were only partially deployed, sure thats a problem, but thats not how PPL works.
PPL his acres and acres of units - theres not enough electricity in the world to plug 'em all in....think open storage lot....MOT is a boutique dealer - if they have 60 units at a time id be surprised.
given the geographic location of MOT vs PPL i could see them being able to charge 2% difference.
both are great places - with good reputations, but theyre VERY different at the same time.
Personally if i was gonna consign a unit - id do it at MOT....less traffic, but also the lot is better monitored by sales too.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1665580_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:281220":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:281220","uid":281220,"login":"mike_brez","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2002-09-27T06:44:50.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-9.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:281220"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1665579":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1665579","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1665579":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:281220"},"id":"message:1665579","revisionNum":1,"uid":1665579,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1665550"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1665550"},"subject":"Re: PPL motorhomes","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1665579"},"body":"
Mr.Mark wrote: bspilot and 2112... so that is one vote for slides OUT and one for slides IN. I heard that they keep them out and stand corrected if I'm wrong.
I do know that they don't plug their untis in because my friend who consigned and sold his National had lots of solar on the roof. The salesman told him his was one of the units that would start every time, others had to be jumped.
PPL is a good place, I didn't want my coach scortching in the sun without the air on. PPL charges 10%, MOT charges 8%.
MM.
Seems like two different types of clientele also.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-02-28T06:20:32.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-02-28T06:20:32.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":455},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1665550/message:1665579","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"651","rawBody":"
Mr.Mark wrote: bspilot and 2112... so that is one vote for slides OUT and one for slides IN. I heard that they keep them out and stand corrected if I'm wrong.
I do know that they don't plug their untis in because my friend who consigned and sold his National had lots of solar on the roof. The salesman told him his was one of the units that would start every time, others had to be jumped.
PPL is a good place, I didn't want my coach scortching in the sun without the air on. PPL charges 10%, MOT charges 8%.
MM.
Seems like two different types of clientele also.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1665579_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:353046":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:353046","uid":353046,"login":"Mr_Mark1","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2006-09-24T15:43:11.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-8.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:353046"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1665578":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1665578","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1665578":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:353046"},"id":"message:1665578","revisionNum":1,"uid":1665578,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1665550"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1665550"},"subject":"Re: PPL motorhomes","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1665578"},"body":"bspilot and 2112... so that is one vote for slides OUT and one for slides IN. I heard that they keep them out and stand corrected if I'm wrong.
I do know that they don't plug their untis in because my friend who consigned and sold his National had lots of solar on the roof. The salesman told him his was one of the units that would start every time, others had to be jumped.
PPL is a good place, I didn't want my coach scortching in the sun without the air on. PPL charges 10%, MOT charges 8%.
MM.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-02-28T06:00:16.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-02-28T06:00:16.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":455},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1665550/message:1665578","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"539","rawBody":"bspilot and 2112... so that is one vote for slides OUT and one for slides IN. I heard that they keep them out and stand corrected if I'm wrong.
I do know that they don't plug their untis in because my friend who consigned and sold his National had lots of solar on the roof. The salesman told him his was one of the units that would start every time, others had to be jumped.
PPL is a good place, I didn't want my coach scortching in the sun without the air on. PPL charges 10%, MOT charges 8%.
bshpilot wrote: ... id be happy to go look at a unit and provide an over the phone evaluation/feedback - but you can expect me to tell you everything i see wrong w/ the unit (in the interest in full disclosure).
I can take some pictures if you like
I did this for a senior member here last month and he was Very Grateful. It saved him a trip from Florida.
I would make the same offer but it's just too dang cold right now to be walking over acres of parking lot :(
And yes, ALL slides are left open 24/7. The above remark was referring to having the slide cover awnings (if installed) being exposed to high winds unattended, which they are.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-02-28T04:49:12.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-02-28T04:49:12.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":455},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1665550/message:1665577","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"711","rawBody":"
bshpilot wrote: ... id be happy to go look at a unit and provide an over the phone evaluation/feedback - but you can expect me to tell you everything i see wrong w/ the unit (in the interest in full disclosure).
I can take some pictures if you like
I did this for a senior member here last month and he was Very Grateful. It saved him a trip from Florida.
I would make the same offer but it's just too dang cold right now to be walking over acres of parking lot :(
And yes, ALL slides are left open 24/7. The above remark was referring to having the slide cover awnings (if installed) being exposed to high winds unattended, which they are.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1665577_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1665576":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1665576","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1665576":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:142711"},"id":"message:1665576","revisionNum":1,"uid":1665576,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1665550"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1665550"},"subject":"Re: PPL motorhomes","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1665576"},"body":"
Mr.Mark wrote:
I did not pick PPL..... because they leave the slides out and from what I understand, they don't plug in their units.
PPL does NOT put slides out - there simply is NO room for slides to be deployed.
there are 1000s of units on the lot....its a large volume consignment lot.
Mr. Mark - where you bought your coach is almost the opposite of PPL...your dealer is a much smaller volume/lot - they don't do many consignment, at best consignments at MOT are a very small part of their business.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-02-27T17:41:26.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-02-27T17:41:26.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":455},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1665550/message:1665576","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"578","rawBody":"
Mr.Mark wrote:
I did not pick PPL..... because they leave the slides out and from what I understand, they don't plug in their units.
PPL does NOT put slides out - there simply is NO room for slides to be deployed.
there are 1000s of units on the lot....its a large volume consignment lot.
Mr. Mark - where you bought your coach is almost the opposite of PPL...your dealer is a much smaller volume/lot - they don't do many consignment, at best consignments at MOT are a very small part of their business.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1665576_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1665575":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1665575","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1665575":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:142711"},"id":"message:1665575","revisionNum":1,"uid":1665575,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1665550"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1665550"},"subject":"Re: PPL motorhomes","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1665575"},"body":"Im local to PPL - the staff i have encountered (by phone, internet/email & in person) were very helpful and polite - that said i never really dealt w/ any of the RV Sales folks. I deal mainly with parts folks and have had conversations w/ finance (once).
there are HUNDREDS of each type of RV...and as has been said here before....condition runs the gamut. Its a self service type lot....dont expect anyone to walk the lot w/ you or to know the condition of a unit - there are just too many units and the turn over is pretty rapid.
id be happy to go look at a unit and provide an over the phone evaluation/feedback - but you can expect me to tell you everything i see wrong w/ the unit (in the interest in full disclosure).
I can take some pictures if you like (perhaps this should be a business).
PM me & I we can swap emails / phone numbers & arrange a time for to look over any units you want me to look at.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"207","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-02-27T17:25:18.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-02-27T17:25:18.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":455},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1665550/message:1665575","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"966","rawBody":"Im local to PPL - the staff i have encountered (by phone, internet/email & in person) were very helpful and polite - that said i never really dealt w/ any of the RV Sales folks. I deal mainly with parts folks and have had conversations w/ finance (once).
there are HUNDREDS of each type of RV...and as has been said here before....condition runs the gamut. Its a self service type lot....dont expect anyone to walk the lot w/ you or to know the condition of a unit - there are just too many units and the turn over is pretty rapid.
id be happy to go look at a unit and provide an over the phone evaluation/feedback - but you can expect me to tell you everything i see wrong w/ the unit (in the interest in full disclosure).
I can take some pictures if you like (perhaps this should be a business).
PM me & I we can swap emails / phone numbers & arrange a time for to look over any units you want me to look at.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1665575_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:386194":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:386194","uid":386194,"login":"puttd","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2004-07-17T16:00:04.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-3.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:386194"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1665574":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1665574","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1665574":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:386194"},"id":"message:1665574","revisionNum":1,"uid":1665574,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1665550"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1665550"},"subject":"Re: PPL motorhomes","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1665574"},"body":"$390 is alot of money to put down on a rig and damage like that is not repairable.I would be more than perturbed to pay for plane tickets and a hotel and find damage like that.
I have inquired on a number of rigs at PPL. On one, also rated excellent, the pictures on the website carefully avoided the substantial staining on the ceiling where there were very bad leaks. It two weeks of bugging the sales person to finally get the honest pictures. Very disturbing and as far as I was concerned, misleading.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-02-27T16:56:22.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-02-27T16:56:22.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":455},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1665550/message:1665574","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"518","rawBody":"$390 is alot of money to put down on a rig and damage like that is not repairable.I would be more than perturbed to pay for plane tickets and a hotel and find damage like that.
I have inquired on a number of rigs at PPL. On one, also rated excellent, the pictures on the website carefully avoided the substantial staining on the ceiling where there were very bad leaks. It two weeks of bugging the sales person to finally get the honest pictures. Very disturbing and as far as I was concerned, misleading.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1665574_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:83119":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:83119","uid":83119,"login":"jtad","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2011-03-22T11:40:15.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-7.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:83119"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1665573":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1665573","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1665573":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:83119"},"id":"message:1665573","revisionNum":1,"uid":1665573,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1665550"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1665550"},"subject":"Re: PPL motorhomes","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1665573"},"body":"Well we just bought an 2004 Holiday Rambler Endeavor from them 2 weeks ago.. We hit the jackpot with this coach, too much to go into hear but after talking to the last owner I got a steal. But as far as PPL they are just a lot. If you are going down to browse around no one is going to hold your hand. I like that anyways, I do my research and typicaly know more about what I am looking at than the person selling it to me (thats a whole other complaint) The coach we bought was pretty well what the saleman told me it was over the phone. No major problems.. We did however have some issues with a few things, no biggie the service department was excellent. We had already put down errnest money, and had every intention of buying this coach when we got there. The salesman I had talked with over the phone just seemed preoccupied with other stuff while we were there. I had a couple of issues that needed his attention and I was having to go track him down every 15 mins to handle it. At one point while he was supposed to be making a phone call to the previous owner I found him working with a customer who wanted to list thier unit on the lot. It was like I was having to go out of my way to get them to help me, all the while I have a check with more zero's on it than anything I have ever written before. The $390 check out was sort of worth it, a bunch of stuff they wrote up that was wrong with it wasn't and we found some stuff once there that needed addressing (minor though) They explained itto me like this. \"We just send someone out there to see what works and what doesn't. They write it up and it goes to service from there. They may or may not have known what they were talking about.\" The young man (David) that did our walk through was excellent. Bottom line is this, it is like anywhere else. You are buying a used RV it is either well kept or it is not. They are just the holding area for said RV. The parts and service dept were excellent, sales..not so much. After signing all the papers we were ready to leave I though the polite thing to do was go tell my salesman good bye and shake his hand. He was no where to be found. I did find one of the co owners standing in the hall way shooting the breeze with a co working I had to butt into thier converstion to get them to talk to me. He told me my salesman was gone for the day, and pretty well told me \"see ya\" in not so many words. Did I get a great deal on a very well kept coach..You bet. Did PPL have anything to do with that.. 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