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Coach-man wrote:
Good posts all! A couple of things i would like to comment on. First, with "mordern" appliances in our RV s, there are no pilot lites! The stove fridge and hot water heater all ignite with an electronic starter when they are activated, so there are no standing pilot lights to worry about . You can safely drive down the road with the fridge on. If for some reason the device fails to light, the gas will be shut off before any build up. BUT, at the gas pump, that could be a differant story. Gasoline vapors could find there way to the appliance just when the device lights up, and boom! Chances are slim that this would happen to you, but it could, remember to stop before entering the pump area and turn off any propane appliances. You can turn them on after you have left the pump area!
Yes, they are started with an electronic spark BUT once they are running are they not a "flame" just like a pilot light? And therefor a source of ignition at any time, not just at start up? - SolidAxleDurangExplorer III have no irrational fears. As a result, my fridge is set to AUTO whenever my RV is in motion.
- snowdanceExplorerDuring our years of travel we have seen people drive off with the gas hose still in the car or truck. Hose breaks and gas every were. The new pumps will shut off when their is a sudden increase in gas flow. But the two we have seen put out a couple gallons of gas before shut off. The hoses we have seen have a break away near the pump. Lots better than in the old days when the pump went with it. Getting the side of the rig sprayed with gas would be a nightmare.
Some states like Oregon you may not touch the pump. They fuel you and will not in most cases if you have not shut the fridge, water heater ect off.
We always shut down not because of any laws so much as for our own protection. Never know when a car will drive off with the hose still in it. Murphys law always rules.. - Coach-manExplorerGood posts all! A couple of things i would like to comment on. First, with "mordern" appliances in our RV s, there are no pilot lites! The stove fridge and hot water heater all ignite with an electronic starter when they are activated, so there are no standing pilot lights to worry about . You can safely drive down the road with the fridge on. If for some reason the device fails to light, the gas will be shut off before any build up. BUT, at the gas pump, that could be a differant story. Gasoline vapors could find there way to the appliance just when the device lights up, and boom! Chances are slim that this would happen to you, but it could, remember to stop before entering the pump area and turn off any propane appliances. You can turn them on after you have left the pump area!
- joe_b_Explorer IILife is a matter of making choices. Most of us weigh the situation and the possible consequences of same, then we make a decision. I do the same with driving with the propane turned on, which I do and have since purchasing my first RV in 1974, 39 years ago.
The most dangerous thing any of us do with our RVs is to drive them on the public highways of North America. Last year in Florida, over 4,000 people died from auto accidents in Florida. Now we all know this is a possibility, that could happen to any of us when we get in our RVs to head out on a trip. But we still all go and just try to be careful. Generally for most of us that works. But how many of the 4,000 people that died in car wrecks here in Florida, thought that morning as they were getting into their cars, "this would sure be a nice day to die."
I grew up using large amounts of propane as most of the fuel we used on the ranch was propane, we ran trucks, grain dryers, irrigation pumps, heated the house and out building, Mom cooked on gas, dried clothes, etc. Propane seems to concern people more than say does gasoline, because propane is a gas at normal atmospheric pressures and temperatures and you can't see it. Spill gasoline or diesel and you can see it on the ground, but not propane.
Since I drive a diesel truck, I am not as concerned with refueling and shutting off the fridge as I would be with gasoline. In one of the arson classes I took one time, a weekend assignment for the class was to try and figure out some way to ignite the fumes off of a pan of diesel. No one in class came up with a way to do it. The instructor was trying to get the point over to the class that when we were investigating a fire and the owner claimed he was washing car parts in diesel and a hot ash fell off his cigarette fell into the pan and ignited the diesel, to make sure we looked more deeply into the fire origin.
So if I am fueling at a diesel only pump, I leave the fridge on, if someone is using gasoline on the other side of the pump, then I will turn it off. Now flash fires from open gasoline are fairly common a call for the ambulance to transport someone to the hospital.
I remember one time a group of us campground "experts" were visiting and one old fellow was claiming that anyone that drove with the propane turned on was an idiot. However at the same time he was lighting up a cigarette. All depends on what a person considers to be too dangerous with little benefits. I have over 3,000 hours of Alaska bush flying experience, which I considered to be worth the risk, though it wasn't for a number of people I knew doing the same thing, but no way could you get me to bungee jump, as the benefits just aren't in it for me. - Snowman9000ExplorerI'd love to know what the actual regulations are on this when you are at a gas pump. I was in the gas station business for years and thought I knew all the regs, and I never heard one about RV propane appliances. I understand the concern, believe me.
There are regs requiring explosion proof and intrinsically safe conduit/wiring, motors, switches, lights, etc. at the gas pump location. There are zones described, and outside of the zone the requirements are relaxed or gone. I seem to recall that at a gas pump, the zone is 0-4 feet up from the ground, since the fuel vapors are heavier than air and hang out at ground level. The RV fridge is usually up around 4 feet or a little higher. But, I could be all wet, my memory is pretty hazy. For sure it's a good practice to shut it off. - Always on when in use. Even while refueling with gasoline. :E
Off and doors open when stored. - roakeExplorerAlways on auto when we're traveling. Off for refueling. Off when its parked waiting for the next trip, with the doors open else we find the interior gets moldy
- TothillExplorerWe are in the majority, fridge on when underway. Off when fuelling, never emptied a propane tank over one season.
Often our trips include a ferry ride, where all propane tanks must be closed and tagged. The trips are about 2 hours long. We turn it back to propane as soon as we can.
I have not come across a tunnel in BC where you have to turn off your propane tank. Most are short.
We do not have a generator. - eaglekeeper1951ExplorerOn for travelling. All propane devices off for refueling stops but back on when hitting the road again.
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