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- ferndaleflyerExplorer IIIIf you think revenue to the state, county, from racers don't get the states attention you might visit NC where one of the largest revenue producers in the state is NASCAR. Total length is 90ft-----its the law. Also I have raced in CA and FL towing 32ft trailer behind a 45ft RV with no problems----just saying. Although on a regular basis locally I tow with a 38ft DP which is still 70ft.
- Executive45Explorer IIICalifornia's freeway signs are higher than the highest point in Florida...just sayin....:B....Dennis
- msmith1199Explorer II
Bucky1320 wrote:
msmith1199 wrote:
Bucky1320 wrote:
Those darned sportsman racers! Tax dodgers! Oh wait. They aren't pros. Very limited money involved in any prize for most races. Besides. Why would a state want the extra revenue from the purchased fuel, food, entry fees etc.? Why would they want to support local business who put on these races?
These guys aren't making money or making their living on racing. This is a hobby for them.
So what laws should people be allowed to break as long as they are generating revenue? Should they be exempt from every law? Should they be also allowed to drive 90mph with their illegal length trailers? Where do you draw the line? Is there a line?
It has NOTHING to do with safety. It has to do with revenue grabbing. If it had to do with safety, then all states would have the same laws.
When it comes to vehicle length laws, all states pretty much do have the same laws with some differences. A 53 foot max trailer length is actually a Federal DOT requirement, and California law just matches that, as does many (if not all) other states. Also California has high mountain passes, lots of grades, and big cities with tight corners. It would make since that California would adopt stricter vehicle size limits than places like Iowa or Nebraska or Montana. - Bucky1320Explorer
msmith1199 wrote:
Bucky1320 wrote:
Those darned sportsman racers! Tax dodgers! Oh wait. They aren't pros. Very limited money involved in any prize for most races. Besides. Why would a state want the extra revenue from the purchased fuel, food, entry fees etc.? Why would they want to support local business who put on these races?
These guys aren't making money or making their living on racing. This is a hobby for them.
So what laws should people be allowed to break as long as they are generating revenue? Should they be exempt from every law? Should they be also allowed to drive 90mph with their illegal length trailers? Where do you draw the line? Is there a line?
It has NOTHING to do with safety. It has to do with revenue grabbing. If it had to do with safety, then all states would have the same laws. - msmith1199Explorer II
Bucky1320 wrote:
Those darned sportsman racers! Tax dodgers! Oh wait. They aren't pros. Very limited money involved in any prize for most races. Besides. Why would a state want the extra revenue from the purchased fuel, food, entry fees etc.? Why would they want to support local business who put on these races?
These guys aren't making money or making their living on racing. This is a hobby for them.
So what laws should people be allowed to break as long as they are generating revenue? Should they be exempt from every law? Should they be also allowed to drive 90mph with their illegal length trailers? Where do you draw the line? Is there a line? - Bucky1320ExplorerThose darned sportsman racers! Tax dodgers! Oh wait. They aren't pros. Very limited money involved in any prize for most races. Besides. Why would a state want the extra revenue from the purchased fuel, food, entry fees etc.? Why would they want to support local business who put on these races?
These guys aren't making money or making their living on racing. This is a hobby for them. - msmith1199Explorer IIRandy a few years back there was a thread on here about having a TV on in view of the driver. There was a guy from Texas saying he'd never come to California because of that stupid law and he'll stay in Texas where things like that are legal. Took me 2 minutes to search the Texas vehicle code and show him it was illegal there too. Opps.
- The_TexanExplorer
randallb wrote:
msmith,
Don't you love the people that are going to stay out of CA because CA will not allow someone the individual staying out of CA does not know break the law. Well, Florida did it to with the NHRA sportsman racers. A good majority of the sportsmen guys were using Toterhomes with trailers. Why? So they did not have to run commercial tags and then they could run over length and over weight since they were not required to hit the scales. The state of Florida got fed up with these tax dodgers ruining the highways in to and out of Gainesville. The state warned the racers that they would be checking weights, lengths and registrations but the idiots showed up anyway. You should have heard the howls when the tickets were written and rigs red tagged. The second year of the sting the racers were warned again and a good number of them still rolled in and got ticketed, etc. Now if you see a racer in a Toterhome and trailer running down the road there will be no decals on the rig. Usually there is just a small "Not For Hire" in black lettering on the side of the tractor. This is the new way to convince the states that this is in fact just a private RV running down the road. Not a commercial racing operation disguised as a sportsman racer/vacationer.
Randy
They are in for a surprise this year as the truck cops will have plain clothes folks at the Gator Nationals observing which units are racing and which are spectators. The NHRA has again been told the law will be enforced if they are found in violation. Want to take a guess how many will thumb their nose at the law again? - randallbExplorermsmith,
Don't you love the people that are going to stay out of CA because CA will not allow someone the individual staying out of CA does not know break the law. Well, Florida did it to with the NHRA sportsman racers. A good majority of the sportsmen guys were using Toterhomes with trailers. Why? So they did not have to run commercial tags and then they could run over length and over weight since they were not required to hit the scales. The state of Florida got fed up with these tax dodgers ruining the highways in to and out of Gainesville. The state warned the racers that they would be checking weights, lengths and registrations but the idiots showed up anyway. You should have heard the howls when the tickets were written and rigs red tagged. The second year of the sting the racers were warned again and a good number of them still rolled in and got ticketed, etc. Now if you see a racer in a Toterhome and trailer running down the road there will be no decals on the rig. Usually there is just a small "Not For Hire" in black lettering on the side of the tractor. This is the new way to convince the states that this is in fact just a private RV running down the road. Not a commercial racing operation disguised as a sportsman racer/vacationer.
Randy - Executive45Explorer III
msmith1199 wrote:
The one example you posted was of people who were modifying a single trailer to be 56' long. That means they are going to hold up more traffic trying to make wide turns, they are going to knock down more street signs and damage more traffic signals. There is a reason for the 53' trailer length.
OOPs ! Case in point....:S...Dennis
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