I THINK I should have the gate valves replaced on my CC Allure. One seems like it wants to stick on me.It SEEMS to me since I can see the bolts that hold them in that a guy can loosen them...pull the existing valves out....insert the new valve and button it all back up again.Dealer says no way ( His $$ an hours "tech" says it cant happen).. He says they needs to get in the guts and loosen a tank to have room to work. ??? That simply removing the existing valves wont give them the room they need to work. I says its BSWhat say you people that may have replaced your own?

My black one drips. I removed the four bolts and thought I was just going to pull out the blade. No way I put it back together and was thinking of getting This.

Your dealer is full of the same stuff that's in your black tank. The job is easy to do and there's enough play in the lines to remove the old valve and replace it. Do one at a time.

It is exactly as it appears to be. I have done the replacement. I dump the tank(s) and then tilt the coach toward the opposite side to eliminate any possible of dripping. There does need to be a bit of room for one of the 2 pipe connections to move but only slightly. Just take your time and replace the entire fitting with new gaskets as well. It all comes out and the identical parts go back in. It's really pretty simple. Here I will say, "In most cases" just to keep the flamers at bay.

Replaced one of mine a few years back. Pretty simple but I can see and easily get to both valves and all the hardware. Removed the bolts, slide the gate out, slide the new one in and tighten the bolts up. 10 minutes tops not counting draining the tank.

1. Yes, sometimes there is enough play to remove the valves.2. NO, sometimes there is NOT enough play to easily remove the valves. You have to take extra things loose to get enough play to remove and install the valves without destroying or pinching the new gaskets. Nothing worse than attempting to work around lack of clearance and when done you find either the valve leaks or the valve will not open and close because you pinched the new gaskets. Doug

Servicing waste gate valves ( Greay and black water valves)

lfeather
Explorer
Sep 27, 2015
Sully2 wrote:
I THINK I should have the gate valves replaced on my CC Allure. One seems like it wants to stick on me.

It SEEMS to me since I can see the bolts that hold them in that a guy can loosen them...pull the existing valves out....insert the new valve and button it all back up again.

Dealer says no way ( His $$ an hours "tech" says it cant happen).. He says they needs to get in the guts and loosen a tank to have room to work. ??? That simply removing the existing valves wont give them the room they need to work.

I says its BS
What say you people that may have replaced your own?

Sully, I've changed mine out a few times and the last time I did it, I noticed a "sleeve" on the grey tank outlet with a hose clamp on it. Loosening the hose clamp allowed me to slide the sleeve back toward the tank which gave me plenty of space to easily slide in and out the gate valves on both sides.
Larry
Mr__Jeff
Explorer
Sep 27, 2015
My Allegro Bus is plumbed in a similar fashion. Changed my last year. Plan to pull both valves out as an assembly with the center "T" section. Easier to remove together, and service both valves even if the other doesn't appear to nned servicing.
Sully2
Explorer
Sep 23, 2015
amen Mr Mike.

My coach is at the dealership so I cant snap any pics of the hardware at present.

I was told by CC to loosen up the band clamp(s) (visible on the grey water but hidden for black water) and that would allow me enough room to get the old clamps out and slip the new clamps in place.

Thanks again for the pic(s).

Sully
mike_brez
Explorer
Sep 23, 2015
Most likely looks like this.
Bill_Satellite
Explorer II
Sep 22, 2015
I also have a Country Coach and, while it's not the same model, CC did most of their plumbing in a similar manner. If you want to post a pic. we could give you additional information but I really don't think you are going to have an issue replacing the valve or finding a better service facility to handle it for you.
Sully2
Explorer
Sep 22, 2015
RLS7201 wrote:
Sully, if your tanks are like my buddies 98 CC, then it is more difficult than most. The Black tank discharge faces the rear and the gray tank discharge faces the front, with a "T" between the 2 valves. Those that haven't seen how your tanks are laid out don't understand how difficult it looks.
On appearance the dealer is right. But! I managed to pry the black tank, with a 2x4, enough to get the valves separated. If the dealer was a little creative, it's a 30 minute job to change both valves. Think KISS

Richard

Thats how mine are Richard. Ive got a call in to CC to see if they had any good answers
rockylarson
Explorer
Sep 22, 2015
Thats quite a leap from sticky valve to a full replacement....I installed a zerk on the valve housing by the handle and give it a shot now and then. Never sticks and no failure in 10 years. Some drill the zerk size hole and spray silicone instead of grease, then use a small screw to close the hole.
Gjac
Explorer III
Sep 22, 2015
I did mine as Bill described in his post. It took me a lot longer than 10 mins because there was not much play in the lines. Not wanting to do this job again. I installed grease fitting in the front of the valve face. When ever the handle gets hard to pull I give it a shot of grease usually once a year. The fittings are self tapping and thread easily into plastic.
Executive45
Explorer III
Sep 22, 2015
You should be able to do the change yourself in less than an hour...both valves. That said, there is a "O" ring that needs to be kept in place while putting the valves in. If one gets sideways, you'll be pulling it off and redoing it, which can be a pain. I put some vaseline on the rings to hold them in place while I slid the valve in and replaced the screws. Worked well....BOL...Dennis
jplante4
Explorer II
Sep 22, 2015
It helps to spray the seals with silicone before sliding the new valve it. On the gasser, I could remove the outlet piping and spray them yearly; can't really do that on the Sahara.

Try pouring baby oil down the black tank after a dump and exercising the gate valve a couple of times.