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et2
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Oct 27, 2013

Sewer termination location is low

We have a 2013 fleetwood Expedition. This is our first class A. I've noticed compared to our last fiver and other trailers we've owned over the years that the termination or sewer hose connection in the water / sewer bay doesn't leave much room under the motorhome to connect the sewer hose to. The sewer hose is snaked through the removable bottom and connected to the MH sewer.

Everytime we've used it so far the connection to the camp sewer does not leave much of a down angle from the MH to allow for proper drainage to the campground hookup. I have been having to use the accordion type sewer hose holder just to get some angle. But that leaves a trap so to speak between the high side of the slinky and the connection to the MH. It drains ok after the fluids get moving into the campground drain, but awful slow to start.

Is this something inherent with a MH? I'm considering a macerator as I'm afraid Of having a campsite where the campground sewer connection is higher than my MH connection and not being able to dump.

How are the macerators? Are they fairly fast when operating? I'm assuming they'll pump up a incline?
  • et2 wrote:
    How are the macerators? Are they fairly fast when operating? I'm assuming they'll pump up a incline?

    Macerators are not real fast, but they ARE convenient, and they can pump uphill or rather long distances. I use mine all the time. I still carry a slinky hose for emergencies, but it's not been hooked up for more than five years now.

    If you have enough space in the compartment to leave the macerator hooked up all of the time, much of the extra pumping time is offset by the lack of setup/cleanup time. With a slinky, you have to get out the hose and hook it up before you can dump. Then after dumping, you have to drain the hose, unhook it, rinse it, drain it again, and then put it away. That all takes time.

    If you can leave the macerator hooked up, then all you have to do is pull on the hose and unscrew the cap. After dumping, let the hose drain, screw the cap on, and toss it back into the compartment. Odds are you won't even get your hands wet.

    Running the pump takes longer than the whoosh from a slinky, but the little bit of extra time is really only an issue if you're in a long dump station line. But if you have the macerator, you might even be able to skip the dump station line and do it at home. I use 75 feet of garden hose to extend my macerator output to reach a septic tank cleanout/inlet. At the old place it was even a few feet uphill. But the macerator handles it with ease, something the slinky could never do.

    If you're the type who sees dumping the tanks to be an activity like a pit stop where every second counts, then you probably won't like it. But if you don't mind a few extra minutes, you might consider it. And did I mention it can be so much more convenient and clean?
  • When we bought our used Motorhome it came with a brand new macerator in a plastic case(Flojet). Having never used one, I continued using the old style hose that I was most familiar with. One camping experience without a sewer connection made it necessary to try the macerator and a 50 hose. I could have kicked myself for not using sooner. I keep it connected to the sewer line end, stick a garden hose in the cg septic system and press a button. No walking the hose to empty it, no rinsing the hose, no handling and storing...I recommend it!
  • ShapeShifter wrote:
    If you have enough space in the compartment to leave the macerator hooked up all of the time, much of the extra pumping time is offset by the lack of setup/cleanup time. With a slinky, you have to get out the hose and hook it up before you can dump. Then after dumping, you have to drain the hose, unhook it, rinse it, drain it again, and then put it away. That all takes time.

    Not everyone goes through the slinky cleaning ritual, if I had to clean the slinky like that each time I wouldn't have an RV.

    My setup looks like this, its simple, effective and quick.
  • super_camper wrote:
    Not everyone goes through the slinky cleaning ritual, if I had to clean the slinky like that each time I wouldn't have an RV.

    Of course, you're right. There are exceptions to every general statement. And, of course, you have to realize that you're an exception and most people do indeed go through the slinky cleaning ritual.

    That looks like a very nice setup you have. :C But it looks like it might hang rather low, and I don't know if I would have enough room under my rig for something like that. :( And given how low the OP says his termination is located, he may not have room for it either.
  • We have a macerator pump too and I use both depending on the situation. Once I let the air out of the bags on the chassis and depending how much leveling the coach needs, sometimes we have a low clearance under the sewer opening.

    Sometimes I can't use my slinky caterpillar stand as it won't fit under the slinky hose as it exits the bottom of the wet bay. Also, I usually never rinse my slinky. I let the grey water rushing through it do the job and in 6.5 yrs., no real problem with it.

    I make sure I have an almost full grey tank when it's time to empty the black tank. Once we do a couple of loads of laundry, a couple of showers, run the dishwasher, it doesn't take long for the 70 gallon grey tank to fill up. I might empty the grey tank two or three times before I empty the 40 gallon black tank. But whenever the black tank needs to be emptied, the grey tank is near full to rinse out the slinky.

    Our toilet is a macerator toilet too, so, everything that comes out of the black tank looks like confetti anyway.

    MM.
  • ShapeShifter wrote:
    super_camper wrote:
    Not everyone goes through the slinky cleaning ritual, if I had to clean the slinky like that each time I wouldn't have an RV.

    Of course, you're right. There are exceptions to every general statement. And, of course, you have to realize that you're an exception and most people do indeed go through the slinky cleaning ritual.

    That looks like a very nice setup you have. :C But it looks like it might hang rather low, and I don't know if I would have enough room under my rig for something like that. :( And given how low the OP says his termination is located, he may not have room for it either.


    Using the basic concept the pipe could be mounted horizontally rather vertically if there are height restrictions. My RV came with this setup but after using it for several years I really do like it. I would find a way to retrofit any future RV to something similar.
  • I don't know how a conventional slinky would mount in my wet bay, there is just no clearance, and I don't carry one. The factory installed sani-con works just great, I'd never go back to a slinky.