Ocean Mist wrote:
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Then, we saw a Tiffin Phaeton, that was also used about 40' Single axle, 2014, DP, with app 2000 miles on it. the salesman said it had Pinch rolled walls, the are the best in the industry...?
I left kinda dissapointed that RV's will always drive terrible...? I really hope something out there will drive better, not have so many rattles, and feels a bit tighter. Dont get me wrong i understand that RV's will rattle and those items can be fixed, but for a first drive i left unimpressed...
I forgot which one, but one had the MAXUM chassis. It seemed like both were on some type of freight-liner chasis. with 4 or 6 airbags. the saleman said that we not want the inside and outside bags because the front tire is right there and could pop the airbag...?
He also said that he wouldn't take a Monaco if they gave it to him for free.. Something about thers no one there to service them
I have hope that Newmar, or CC, or pre 2007 Monaco, or...?? will feel tighter, and have some quality engineering done.
A few things;
First, based on what you're saying here your salesman was an idiot. There is so much misinformation it's almost laughable.
1. The Tiffin has laminated walls, like 95% of every other MH on the market today. "Pinched Rolled" - what the heck is that??? Sure, during the lamination process they pinch the walls between 2 rollers, but it's still nothing more than a laminated wall - and if it's laminated it will delaminate over time.
From Tiffins own web site:
We guarantee against all exterior fiberglass delamination or wall separation for 5 years.2. A test drive of an empty coach is a bear, although thats usually our only option. The air pressures will usually be set of a loaded coach, and air pressure makes a big difference. Having said that, try a Newmar with Comfort Drive some time. If you can, get the most gusty windy day you can and do a back-to-back with another that doesn't have Comfort Drive. You'll see what a nice driving coach is all about. :B
3. Outside airbags have been used successfully for years. I'm thinking if tires popping them was a real issue you'd see it on here every day. I'm been on RV.net a long time and not once have I ever heard of such a thing. See above opinion on your salesman.
4. While Monaco sure has gone through some rough times since 2008, and they had a few dark periods along the way, they still are a quality coach. The pre-2008's were some of the finest quality MHs on the road, and with the new owners I suspect we'll be seeing that again. Look what they've done for Fleetwood. By most (all?) accounts the new overs have done an exceptional job of not only taking care of the mistakes of the past, they've also improved quality across the board. I wouldn't shy away from a Monaco one bit.
