They made ATVs and Mules so I don't have to buy a PO******Jeep. Go ahead and buy them. Your dollar but http://www.jeepz.com/forum/general-chat/22225-11-worst-cars-consumer-reports-3-jeeps-make-list.html is an informing read. I don't really care just passing on info. My best friend had one and got rid of it because when it rained in Fl she got wet, a 1 yr old Jeep Wrangler. I'd buy a Nissan or Toyota, will go farther, better built and just as much traction I could go anywhere a jeep does with one but I was raised in the Rockies.