JudyWright wrote:
creeper wrote:
viajante wrote:
smlranger wrote:
Wash-Wax All is a great system. I've used it many times and the coach looks new. I use it in all cases except when the coach is covered with mud or otherwise heavily soiled. The system comes with an adjustable handle and micro fiber mop heads. It was developed to clean aircraft. It works.
http://washwax.com/
X2 Absolutely love this stuff. The best cleaning product I have ever found.
Damages clear coat paint. Does nothing but add swirl marks. Impossible to use correctly on a motorhome unless you're going up an down a ladder. You'll end up hiring someone to correct the paint when you see all the swirls in the sun.
If that was my only choice, I'd leave it dirty. In fact I'd never use that stuff at all. If used correctly, then it has limited usage to only slightly dusty as that's what it's designed for.
I've talked to people who loved this method and when i looked at their coach the paint is just swirled all over, then they ask me how much would I charge to fix their paint. Not enough money.
Hello 'creeper' - can you add info please about this product damaging clear coat? Thank you in advance.
Bear in mind that this product was originally designed for the aviation industry who had water prohibitions. The surface of planes are different then what is what on your coach and they don't care about scratching the surfaces.
Remember they are trying to sell you a product and could care less what you do to the surface of the paint. Waterless wash type products should ONLY be used for a VERY light dusting on the surface if you must use one. Water less washes also need lots of lubricity, which this product can't give you in a pole version which most use.
Most of the damage to a coaches paint is done during the washing step, it's compounded by using those cheap nylon wash brushes you buy at walmart or camping world. If you want to use a pole brush (which I do on parts) you need to use a boar hair brush. That'll cost you $90, will last your life time and not damage your paint. Here is mine.
Now avoiding damage, which are micro scratches aka swirls, which you add each time you care for you paint incorrectly. It is prevented by washing off as much dirt and debris as possible with water, then a quality soap will loosen the dirt and provide lubricity for the dirt to flow off. You must rinse your brush often to get the dirt particles off and not bring them back to the surface on additional strokes of your brush. Never apply pressure when washing. Micro scratches are cumulative over time and we all see those coaches that look all scratched in the sun.
This is not provided with product like this. It collects the dirt and then that dirt is pushed all over the paint. The more dirt the more it acts like sandpaper. Bear in mind the vast majority of people even misuse this product. The instructions clearly state to replace the pad when it gets dirty. The pads are about $10 a pop delivered and you'll need a bunch to do an entire RV.
Most people I've seen use the pole mop and one pad for the entire RV , spray solution on the mop head and wipe down the whole RV just spraying and mopping. Which is completely wrong. To do a complete RV you'd need multiple pads as per the instructions and spray the paint first in addition to the mop as per the instructions( note step 2 of the instructions which state, "spray on the area to be cleaned". At 12+ feet that means a ladder. I've yet to see anyone do this. You'd need a ladder and go up and down repeatedly. Too much work, which most people don't do anyway and just cause the damage. This is a labor intensive item to use on a RV "Correctly" and following the instructions.
Just think as you work your way around you're bringing the dirt from other parts and rubbing that on the paint. The particles don't magically disappear. You have to get the dirt off your wash instrument not to do damage.
A conventional waterless wash on a car involves lots of spray product and lots of towels, which are used on very few strokes. It's a gimmicky product that promises to make a chore seem easier. But, when you have to pay to have the paint corrected on your coach you'll be sorry you used it.
People can use what they want. Many methods, this one included, will appear to give great results and people will be happy. Heck, I have a family member who swears by using furniture polish on his paint because it's cheap, fast and his cars look great afterwards. :R
I have many products I could use and would produce a great result, but I'd cause all kinds of damage. Some people won't even notice the damage for a couple of years until it just gets like this
Their are countless coaches that look like this. If I had a choice of using a waterless wash or leaving it dirty, i'd leave it dirty. Like I say use what you want, but for me my coach was too expensive to intentionally mistreat it. I'd rather buy the right tools and do it correctly.
Here is a good article describing what I've been saying about damage. 
