Where is quality?????

The problems exist whether you buy a $20,000 trailer (or less) or a $2,000,000 Prevost (no that number is not wrong). There are so many layers of "quality". Is it the problem with the chassis, the converter or the manufacturer of the hardware. There are so many people involved and so many people responsible for the various parts and components it's impossible to expect a perfect coach coming out of the factory. I would not expect the car I drive off the showroom floor to be perfect either so I am not sure why this seems to be such a point of contention.

oneolddog wrote:
I can only speak for Class A Diesel Pushers. They are getting better and better all of the time. As they became heavier manufacturers ran into issues with overweight front axles etc. This has been resolved for the most part. The 2006 - 2010ish range saw a lot of other issues from Tiffin and others. These problems seem to have been fixed. They are not only made better but floor plans have greatly improved and 'all electric' Coach's are now the most popular for many good reasons. If I was looking at used I would try and stay to 2012 and newer!

Just because its an expensive diesel is no more a guaratee of quality issues.

Have any of you had a house built in 3-5 days? Was it perfect from the get-go? If you want them perfect then you had better insist that the dealer and you go over every inch of the thing before you hand over the check. All the dealers want is your money and I guarantee they won't remember your name when you drive it out of the lot. If you are the mechanically ignorant soul that believes what the dealer tells you, then you are in trouble.

After reading more into this slide problem it sounds like newmar screwed up and this full wall slide requires kid glove treatment every time its deployed
they should have never installed and sold this extremely convoluted system
I bet we hear and see a lot of problems regarding this issue over the next few years.
heres another unhappy newmar owner on the same thread

Good Gosh!! And I thought I had a long long list of problems taking 2 separate trips back to Nappanee with my 2015 Dutch Star but yours really takes the cake. Doesn't Newmar do any kind of all systems check out after these coaches are thrown together by what must be a totally untrained assembly line?

usersmanual wrote:

I have a 2016 Newmar Mountainaire. I have had nothing but problems with the shades, windshield wipers coming off, macerated pump hose defects, slide outs that do not function and the largest slide out did not function and tore the wall loose and caved ceiling in. Has anyone had problems like this on such a new home?

found this on irv2 net

The initial post doesn't cover the full story. There is now speculation as to was the full slide was deployed correctly. Something like this rarely, if ever, happens unless there were other issues to cause it.

The shades, windshield wipers, hose defect have nothing to do with manufacturer quality. They come from different companies.

usersmanual wrote:

I have a 2016 Newmar Mountainaire. I have had nothing but problems with the shades, windshield wipers coming off, macerated pump hose defects, slide outs that do not function and the largest slide out did not function and tore the wall loose and caved ceiling in. Has anyone had problems like this on such a new home?

found this on irv2 net

I saw this too. I would like to hear more about this as if it isn't exaggerated it is a rare occurrence. Newmar's Mountainaire full wall slide uses the same HWH system that is in all of the Dutchstars and up.

I have a 2016 Newmar Mountainaire. I have had nothing but problems with the shades, windshield wipers coming off, macerated pump hose defects, slide outs that do not function and the largest slide out did not function and tore the wall loose and caved ceiling in. Has anyone had problems like this on such a new home?

found this on irv2 net

Cmon! You guys are asking tough questions and you'll scare the OP away.I ahd a Peterbilt and in 400,300 miles it was in the shop every other week. Had to get the oil changed and have it greased and washed and you know all the normal maintenence. It was in the shop 1 time for 2 hrs when a Injector melted.

crasster and rgatijnet1 both nailed my concerns. I'm not interested in an electric fireplace, granite counters or a washer dryer in the unit. We want a basic reliable. I want the floor furnace to work when I turn it on, I don't want to go 200 miles out of my way to the dealer to get a part that cannot be found locally. I don't want to deal with problems when we've not even driven out of state. We bought our former unit used and expected we would have to fix things. I did not plan to drive directly back to the dealer before we got our new unit home to replace a tail light that didn't work.

I can only speak for Class A Diesel Pushers. They are getting better and better all of the time. As they became heavier manufacturers ran into issues with overweight front axles etc. This has been resolved for the most part. The 2006 - 2010ish range saw a lot of other issues from Tiffin and others. These problems seem to have been fixed. They are not only made better but floor plans have greatly improved and 'all electric' Coach's are now the most popular for many good reasons. If I was looking at used I would try and stay to 2012 and newer!