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valhalla360
Dec 29, 2018Navigator
Chainwright wrote:
You keep bringing Long ranges up. AGAIN, it's a global economy, Winnebago, thor, Coachmen et al. don't just build MH's for America anymore. AGAIN for you 150 miles is Nothing, in other Major markets, it's ALOT.
Where are these markets? I spend a good bit of the year in Europe and have rented and hung out with the local RV crowd...150 miles is still very marginal range at best and it's not uncommon to put in a few hundred miles per day.
I don't want to deviate too much, but MY main objective is to keep progressing, my objective is to get away from the ICEs that we've been using for decades. I'm all for Innovation. Y'all have compelling arguments AGAINST the New technologies but In all Y'all INFINITE knowledge do y'all have any compelling arguments FOR (PRO) any Knew Technologies?
A positive attitude doesn't change the laws of physics. So far no one is close.
Now to CITY buses: I've lived in A lot of major cities, Yes many still use Catenary Electric power, but most use LPG. Never heard of Hybrid city buses, but hey, who am I, I'm not an expert, I'll give y'all the benefit of the doubt. But yeah, whatever happened to a LPG MH concept?
I'm marginally involved in transit for work. LPG never took over a large part of the market. Diesel was always the go-to work horse for buses but hybrid has taken the lead. Battery works for some low speed short distance routes but still has limitations. Cantenary is generally limited to very high volume routes...usually light rail rather than buses as it's a big expense to install and maintain.
The objective (at least for me) was never to TOTALLY eliminate the use of oil (petroleum), but instead of being almost totally dependent on it why not cut our current usage in viable areas and curb global emissions by 50-60% if possible and where possible?
It's very simple. Live in a tiny well insulated apartment walking distance to work and don't travel.
Again Y'all have some compelling arguments Against just about everything that modern and futuristic technologies are coming up with Today. But at the rate we are going, It's not about the HERE and Now, I have to look to the future because I have a son, and if I present him with YOUR outlook, it makes for a dark future without hope. Also, Some of you seem to be savants in this area or maybe just Well read, But I see the strides and progress that Mercedes, BMW, Peugeot, Toyota, Honda, tesla (et al) Engineers are making and coming up with, yet you come on here and pretty much bad mouth everything that these engineers come up with. So who should I Listen too??? What are YOUR credentials, what are YOUR achievements in this arena? who seems to be more expert in this area you or the Engineers from MB, BMW and so on? Where do their experties and expert knowledge exceed yours?
Now......where do you propose the auto/transportation industry should focus their Research on?
JMHO, hope no one is offended or taking it personal.
It's not nearly as dark as some would have you believe. Most of the doom and gloom is from people with a vested interest in making you believe it will be doom and gloom.
RV's and big trucks really aren't the best place to start...they really need the large power plants and the long range...even local delivery trucks do north of a 100-150 miles per day with heavy loads.
Passenger cars are where the big benefits can be found. Plug-In-Hybrids are a greats solution, even a modest 30 mile range will result in 80-90% of miles driven being electric but when you need to go farther, you can all without the flaws of a pure electric.
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