Winnebago Vista

afrescop wrote:
So, if Winnebago or any manufacturer sets a minimum selling price how is that not violating federal price fixing law or restraint of trade?

Does not apply. Winnebago sets its price based on its cost and profits. They do not conspire with other manufacturers to control the industry. Very different products.

So, if Winnebago or any manufacturer sets a minimum selling price how is that not violating federal price fixing law or restraint of trade?

Your final price is the important thing. If you have a trade a lot of wiggle room there. You can save money by doing your add ons as part of the deal. Like sat dish, sway bars, steering stabilizer. They can throw in labor and get these items at cost. Don't forget valve stem extenders and towing equipment. In the end it is the package. Good luck. I like my winnebago products.

I can speak for Winne and Newmar. They both have MSRP's that are the same from dealer to dealer because they are from the mfg. In other words a 2016 Ventanna will have the same "sticker" from Newmar regardless of the dealer. Same base price and same price for options.

Why then does Winnie put MSRP on every single MH on their site? I think there is some verbiage that is causing confusion. We can split hairs all day but Winnie "says" their MSRP is X. They have it on their website. Whether or not it's regulated doesn't matter. That's the starting figure most discount percentages are based upon. X% off MSRP. It's not like this is news. Some folks argue to argue. MSRP is MSRP regulated or not and anyone can see it on the site.

Sure it's inflated. That's the point, so buyers can "feel" like they get a deal. And that "deal" usually lands about 25-30% off what Winnie's price is. The dealer plans on selling at that price anyway you just have to get them there.

With so much information on the net, dealers are pretty close in price. Only takes about an hour of due diligence to figure out what the best price is across the board. Pit several dealers against one another and you'll figure out soon enough what they will part with it for. What percentage that ends up being based on some made up MSRP by the manufacturer doesn't really matter. But the typical range is 25-30%. Call the starting number whatever you want. MSRP or the unicorn and rainbow number - it's still the starting number.

And dealers can't sell for whatever price they want. Otherwise major dealers could squeeze out smaller shops in a month. Winnie has some say in how low a dealer can go on a unit. Corporate suicide if they didn't.

Effy wrote:
Isn't MSRP set by the manufacturer? MSRP = Manufacturer's suggested retail price. Dealers can't just make that up. It's set that way to avoid competing dealers from putting each other out of business which in turn is bad for Winnie. Now there is a figure called MAP. Which is the Manufacturer's allowable price, which is the lowest any dealer can sell a unit, but again it's set by the manufacturer - not the dealer.

Dealers can play with the selling price but it can't be below the MAP.

You are confusing the Magneson-Moss MSRP sticker required on all new motor vehicles in the US. All motor vehicles of the same brand and equipped the same way will have the same exact MSRP. Not so for RVs. The sheet on motorhomes is not the same and not held to the same standard. Dealers can sell for whatever price they chose. MAP only applies to an advertised price.

Isn't MSRP set by the manufacturer? MSRP = Manufacturer's suggested retail price. Dealers can't just make that up. It's set that way to avoid competing dealers from putting each other out of business which in turn is bad for Winnie. Now there is a figure called MAP. Which is the Manufacturer's allowable price, which is the lowest any dealer can sell a unit, but again it's set by the manufacturer - not the dealer.

Dealers can play with the selling price but it can't be below the MAP.

smacdiesel wrote:
We got only 20% off on ours, but I noticed the msrp was lower than the competing dealers.

yep, lowest price out the door is what is important, not that you got 90% off a BS price.
when I went to the PA factory to look at the Flair that I wanted and bought, I was looking for the Fleetwood sticker price and no stickers anywhere. as was said, they seem to be custom made depending on the amount of "discount" that the dealer wants to give. :)
bumpy

We got only 20% off on ours, but I noticed the msrp was lower than the competing dealers.

Any Winnebagos that I have seen our dealer, they all have had a Winnebago build sheet, on an interior window.

We got 32% off msrp on our 06, but it was a model year old, but brand new.

Ken