Would you buy a 86k rig ?

My answer is no way. It's all about TRUST on the road. I don't care how well someone took care of a vehicle, you as the next owner needs TRUST.
I purchased a immaculate Class A with only 17K miles on it. It was about 7 years old but looks like it came off the showroom floor. Old couple only used for two long trips, so I bought it.
After replacing all hoses, all belts, tires, all fluids etc to make me fee comfortable for a long trip, I hit the road. First trip the main drain to the grey water broke at the top of the tank, I was quoted 5K to fix it because of where it was. I fixed it on my own by cutting a chunk of floor out. Next trip another PVC pipe broke under the sink, in a bad place not easily accessible.
Final trip the fuel pump went out inside the tank. Well that was it for me, I sold it the day I got home, and never looked back.
If you can't trust something then it's gotta go and with older of high mileage vehicles you never know what will pop up next.

The only caveat, is f you have plenty of time and money to constantly fix your rig, then go for it,

For me I want to spend what little free time I have ENJOYING myself not sitting in dealer waiting rooms, in motels waiting for parts, or on the side of the road waiting for tows.

I know buying anything news SUX, but the warranty is worth it and the trust level is up there. Do new vehicles also break down, sure they do, but like I said it's all about TRUST, and generally you can trust some new over something used any day of the week.

Ford did not issue a recall for the spark plug treads having been cut wrong the heads in question are the ones that the spark plug threads are cut too small for the plug to be properly torqued not enough meat on the treads .

And no recall was issued otherwise I would have gotten one for my unit, Toyota might do things differently after the stuck accelerator fiasco, but as I said before Ford did not have a recall no one died because the plugs flew out of the hole, they did not even fall of since there is the boot and the individual coil to hood them in place.

There is a whole section in the internet devoted to the spark plug problem and how to solve it, that is where I found the name of the company that makes he tool to repair the spark plug threads.

I had two spark plugs that were lose and one that was marginal, some of the heads that were manufactured at a different plant had no problems, so those that have gone a lot of miles with no problem have the good heads to start.

A recall is issued when there is a safety issue that can endanger the occupants or outsiders, a blown spark plug or a blown head gasket will not make the vehicle not stop or not steer, you will loose some power but not much and the computer on the V10 will compensate for the cylinder that is misfiring and you will get home.

In any case the issue is if the unit that is being sold with 68K is in good condition or has problems that they want to get rid off.

navegator

navegator wrote:
No there were no recalls since it is not a safety item, all that happers when a plug shears the threads is a bang and small loss of power and a bang-puff type of niose, it will scare the heck out of you, some dealers want from $600.00 for one plug to $6,000.oo for all ten, others want to change heads suposedlly and charge and arm and a leg and do the inserts any way.

When you have the mechanic check the unit have him simply check four plugs, if one of them is loose the unit has the heads that need the modification, there is a tool made yust for that opperation, TIME CERT the tool is about $375.00+, they are not Helicoils, they are colplete thread repair inserts.

I found No 3 plug loose and No 7 very easy to turn finger tight, so I purchased the tool and did all of the plugs, ask the person or owner if that is the case and you can deduct at least $6,000.00b to $7,000.00 from the asking price, if they back out you know that that is why they are selling it, or not.

I hope that it helps.

navegator

No recalls because it was not a safety item....My wife's Toyota was 10 years old she was not the original owner and Toyota recalled it for a

head gasket. Repairs were over 1000 dollars, she paid nothing. new anti freeze, oil, filter and spark plugs. The 4 runner had over 100K miles

on it. Ford didn't want to accept responsibility. Not nice.

No problem. My MHs have 148K and 122K, both retired rentals. A lot of people say some MHs are abused because they have too many miles. I believe the more miles the better. The V10 will run forever.

No there were no recalls since it is not a safety item, all that happers when a plug shears the threads is a bang and small loss of power and a bang-puff type of niose, it will scare the heck out of you, some dealers want from $600.00 for one plug to $6,000.oo for all ten, others want to change heads suposedlly and charge and arm and a leg and do the inserts any way.

When you have the mechanic check the unit have him simply check four plugs, if one of them is loose the unit has the heads that need the modification, there is a tool made yust for that opperation, TIME CERT the tool is about $375.00+, they are not Helicoils, they are colplete thread repair inserts.

I found No 3 plug loose and No 7 very easy to turn finger tight, so I purchased the tool and did all of the plugs, ask the person or owner if that is the case and you can deduct at least $6,000.00b to $7,000.00 from the asking price, if they back out you know that that is why they are selling it, or not.

I hope that it helps.

navegator

navegator wrote:
If it is a 2001 v-10 depending on the heads are they selling it because the spark plugs are pulling out and the repairs are to expensive.

Or a well maintained unit with no problems, dealers always detail the units that are being sold and they look fantastic, until you start asking why are they selling this, what problems does it have, how much is it going to cost me to repair?

navegator

Was there a recall to fix this problem?

I just bought a '95 with 86K miles 3 weeks ago. I have the Dodge 318 in a 19' Roadtrek. So far so good.

If it is a 2001 v-10 depending on the heads are they selling it because the spark plugs are pulling out and the repairs are to expensive.

Or a well maintained unit with no problems, dealers always detail the units that are being sold and they look fantastic, until you start asking why are they selling this, what problems does it have, how much is it going to cost me to repair?

navegator

Pay a mechanic to look at it for you. If it cost you a hundred no big deal. If you miss something important that hundred will just be one of many flying out the door. He can also spot items that are on

their way to be needing repair and that will give you some leverage during the negotiation process. 86K is nothing on the V-10. Buddies have them and both are close if not over 200K.

Got to be a motor head in your neighborhood that can help you out.

Modern engine modern fuels mileage shouldn't be a deal breaker. look for tail tail signs like smell the transmission fluid dose it smell burnt is it brownish red.look under the oil fill cap is it clean with no gunk built up, shine a light down the fill hole and see how clean or gunky the valve train is. look to see if things like oil pan, trans pan and areas like that show signs of leakage. take a look at the bolts on the trans pan and oil pan show signs of being wrenched on like rounded corners on bolt heads and missing washers you can tell a lot by just looking. most likely it's okay but these are things that can show you a lot about the condition of your purchase with out asking a question or turning a wrench.