maximum # of pets

4aSong wrote:

Deb and Ed M wrote:
It's a shame that a place that you've previously camped at (and enjoyed), has changed the rules, either due to outside influence (insurance or local ordinance) - or due to previous RVers abusing the rules about picking up, etc.

Personally, I would call them. I'd say "Hi, I'm Deb, we've camped there before with our 4 dogs, but now I see you've changed your rules" - and then see what they say? Perhaps, this rule was set up to keep a few specific people out, and they will invite you to camp? This has happened more than once for us, where a rule was enforced "selectively" (my 70-lb Aussie was allowed in a "35-lb and under" park; or my 3 dogs were allowed in a 2-dog park. I didn't ASK for the exception - it was offered) What's the worst that can happen? - they say no exceptions. Then you thank them and tell them you will miss their lovely RV park. And look for another.

Let me ask a question. Lets assume the park manager/owner allows an exception. Who would be held liable should your pet becomes aggressive toward a child or adult walking by, The pet owner? the park manager/owner?. I believe all should abide by rules, no exceptions.

The wording in my insurance policy clearly states that there is an exclusion to my liability coverage if I accept one of the restricted breeds and there is a loss. Same as your homeowner's insurance specifically excludes losses from floods from coverage. Doesn't mean you can't let in a restricted breed or build in a flood zone, just means you are risking your own money, not the insurance company's

mikhen wrote:

Old-Biscuit wrote:
Same type of post ---------same question about # of pets

CLICKY

OP here. Sorry, I did not see that post. Great info there. So now the only thing that irks me is the campgrounds that had no limit last year, now have a 2 dog limit.

Maybe the park was just too successful and made too much money, so they have to run off some customers. Maybe they just felt they didn't have enough rules on their rule sheet so they added some, just to make page look full. It couldn't possibly be that they have had years of experience running parks and realized that a lot of problems occur when people have a lot of dogs.
In 14 years of owning parks I have never, ever had a customer say they didn't clean up after their dogs. In those same 14 years I can count on one hand the number of days there wasn't a least one dog pile that needed to be cleaned up. Maybe I am just blessed and visited by the Dogpoop Fairy every night. Maybe Dog Poo just grows wild in my area. Maybe the Starship Enterprise has Scotty beam down the ship's poo to my location. Or maybe, not everyone cleans up after their pets and if those people have 4 pets instead of one there are 4 piles times as many piles to clean.
And we haven't even gotten to the fact that dogs are pack animals and when one starts to bark they all join in. And even the most die hard denier of dogs ever being a problem would have to admit that four dogs barking makes more noise than one dog barking.

Deb and Ed M wrote:

I was asked once, to bring my full-sized Aussie into the office, once we arrived (?) (I had already explained that he exceeded the 40 lb size limit by quite a bit). Come to find out, the office manager was a devout lover of Aussies and simply wanted to meet him :-)

I can just picture it...Ms Deb, this is the principals office, will you please send the Aussie to the office please!:)

Walaby wrote:
I have no problem with a campground or park making an exception if they feel it's warranted or worthy. It's their choice. I equally have no issue with a park or campground saying no exceptions for the same reason.

Mike

If I had to guess, I think some of these rules get enforced when the RV pulls up and you can already hear the cacophony of shrill barking from the inside... or the threatening growl of a not-socialized big dog....

I was asked once, to bring my full-sized Aussie into the office, once we arrived (?) (I had already explained that he exceeded the 40 lb size limit by quite a bit). Come to find out, the office manager was a devout lover of Aussies and simply wanted to meet him :-)

Deb and Ed M wrote:

The reason I called these parks was because they had a letter for (B)reed, (S)ize, or (Q)uantity listed in their RV Park guide. I called for clarification. They asked what I had and I told them honestly. They invited us to stay with them. I would never ask for a rules change or variance - but if one is offered, I figure they have their reasons for the rule in the first place?

Apparently I and my dogs sound like wonderful folks....LOL! (And we are)

Nice to hear and congrats. I have no problem with a campground or park making an exception if they feel it's warranted or worthy. It's their choice. I equally have no issue with a park or campground saying no exceptions for the same reason.

Mike

4aSong wrote:

Deb and Ed M wrote:
It's a shame that a place that you've previously camped at (and enjoyed), has changed the rules, either due to outside influence (insurance or local ordinance) - or due to previous RVers abusing the rules about picking up, etc.

Personally, I would call them. I'd say "Hi, I'm Deb, we've camped there before with our 4 dogs, but now I see you've changed your rules" - and then see what they say? Perhaps, this rule was set up to keep a few specific people out, and they will invite you to camp? This has happened more than once for us, where a rule was enforced "selectively" (my 70-lb Aussie was allowed in a "35-lb and under" park; or my 3 dogs were allowed in a 2-dog park. I didn't ASK for the exception - it was offered) What's the worst that can happen? - they say no exceptions. Then you thank them and tell them you will miss their lovely RV park. And look for another.

Let me ask a question. Lets assume the park manager/owner allows an exception. Who would be held liable should your pet becomes aggressive toward a child or adult walking by, The pet owner? the park manager/owner?. I believe all should abide by rules, no exceptions.

If I have one dog (within the rules) and it bites someone or becomes aggressive, who's liable? Just because a park made an exception, doesn't change who is liable.

Mike

4aSong wrote:


Let me ask a question. Lets assume the park manager/owner allows an exception. Who would be held liable should your pet becomes aggressive toward a child or adult walking by, The pet owner? the park manager/owner?. I believe all should abide by rules, no exceptions.

The reason I called these parks was because they had a letter for (B)reed, (S)ize, or (Q)uantity listed in their RV Park guide. I called for clarification. They asked what I had and I told them honestly. They invited us to stay with them. I would never ask for a rules change or variance - but if one is offered, I figure they have their reasons for the rule in the first place?

Apparently I and my dogs sound like wonderful folks....LOL! (And we are)

An aggressive dog could be present and be in compliance of rules on number of allowed dogs (or size limits); aggression has nothing to do with allowed numbers.

Deb and Ed M wrote:
It's a shame that a place that you've previously camped at (and enjoyed), has changed the rules, either due to outside influence (insurance or local ordinance) - or due to previous RVers abusing the rules about picking up, etc.

Personally, I would call them. I'd say "Hi, I'm Deb, we've camped there before with our 4 dogs, but now I see you've changed your rules" - and then see what they say? Perhaps, this rule was set up to keep a few specific people out, and they will invite you to camp? This has happened more than once for us, where a rule was enforced "selectively" (my 70-lb Aussie was allowed in a "35-lb and under" park; or my 3 dogs were allowed in a 2-dog park. I didn't ASK for the exception - it was offered) What's the worst that can happen? - they say no exceptions. Then you thank them and tell them you will miss their lovely RV park. And look for another.

Let me ask a question. Lets assume the park manager/owner allows an exception. Who would be held liable should your pet becomes aggressive toward a child or adult walking by, The pet owner? the park manager/owner?. I believe all should abide by rules, no exceptions.

I think you understand it perfectly