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chrisnpat
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Jan 30, 2014

qustion for Dr Doug

Summer our latest rescue has a limp, I guess her leg was broken. When she gets up after resting for a while she does show signs of stiffness.

The food she came with, was a Grain free food but it also had Gluscomine in it. Assuming it was a very little dose of it I started her on Cosequin.

First week here she had very bad explosive diarrhea, sometimes to the point there was blood in it. Our vet did blood work and looked for parasites, everything came back negative. So finally I thought I narrowed the problem down to the Gluscomine in her food and what I was giving her.

Switched her food to something that doesn't have that in it, problem went away for about a week and a half.

Decided to try and give her the Dasuquin, second day and now she has diarrhea again, and I know that's what the Dasuquin is supposed to be for. grrrr

Is there anything else for Dogs like Summer that I could give her to help her with the stiffness. I really don't want to start her on Deramax yet at 6-years old, but I will if there's nothing else for her.

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  • chrisnpat's avatar
    chrisnpat
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    Feb 03, 2014
    Just a quick update,after 5 months now (august) I believe Summers Diarrhea has stopped. I've been giving her the Dasaquin 1/2 tablet for a few days now and no bad stools yet. I'm going to increase it to 3/4 a tablet tomorrow to see how she does.
    Its been very nice not to come home to, or wake up to,..... well you know. Thanks all, sometimes the littlest suggestions, help in the biggest ways.:)
  • Nutinelse2do's avatar
    Nutinelse2do
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    Jan 31, 2014
    CA POPPY wrote:
    Dr Doug will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe aspirin is an NSAID. Our vet told us to never give baby aspirin to our pooch that had a history of gastritis.


    Yes, understand this, but for short term chilly bones in winter, my vet ok'd it, and it has not changed her liver enzymes due to the very low dose ( total daily 162mg ) for 2-3 months only.

    Works for our girl. Tramadol makes her vomit.
  • dturm's avatar
    dturm
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    Jan 31, 2014
    CA POPPY wrote:
    Dr Doug will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe aspirin is an NSAID. Our vet told us to never give baby aspirin to our pooch that had a history of gastritis.


    Aspirin is an nsaid. While dogs don't usually have the degree of stomach problems that people can (in my experience), I'd still choose tramadol as my recommended pain medication in dogs that can't (or shouldn't) take an nsaid.
  • Code2High's avatar
    Code2High
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    Jan 30, 2014
    Great idea on the homeopathic! Arnica is a homeopathic staple, of course. There are others as well and some combo homeopathics that could be tried such as Traumeel.
  • CA_POPPY's avatar
    CA_POPPY
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    Jan 30, 2014
    Dr Doug will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe aspirin is an NSAID. Our vet told us to never give baby aspirin to our pooch that had a history of gastritis.
  • Nutinelse2do's avatar
    Nutinelse2do
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    Jan 30, 2014
    Our 14 yr old lab mix can't take Rimadyl or any other type of NSAID due to liver enzymes. Her tummy also cannot handle the Glucosamine products. I did a ton of homeopathic research and found the Borion Arnica 30c tabs.

    I have been using sublingual Arnica 30c tabs 3-4 x daily dissolved in a tiny bit of milk. They can also be added to your dog's water instead, but it makes it more difficult to regulate.

    After a few days, I noticed a huge difference in her movement. During the colder months I also give her a couple baby aspirin throughout the day. She has a VERY sensitive tummy and does very well with the above combination.

    Look up homeopathic canine arthritis remedies and there is alot of info on the Arnica.

    Good luck. Hope your baby feels better soon.
  • chrisnpat's avatar
    chrisnpat
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    Jan 30, 2014
    Thank You Dr Doug and Susan, I will try the lower dose next and than maybe check into the omega oils if that doesn't help.
    I was a little worried about the nsaids because I don't want her to have tummy problems to, but I'm also hoping when, if ever, it warms up around here maybe she won't need it as much as now. Its funny she doesn't slow down outside, she runs and keeps up with Dudley, just has a problem getting up after laying for a while.
  • Code2High's avatar
    Code2High
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    Jan 30, 2014
    Black currant seed oil, celadrin, noni are all things used for pain. Sam-e is usually used for other stuff in animals but os actually very good for joint pain.

    Also there are some supplements from chicken collagen that might be helpful.
  • dturm's avatar
    dturm
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    Jan 30, 2014
    There may be a sensitivity to the glucosamine. You might try a lower dose and gradually increase it. If you don't want to go that direction, don't be afraid to give nsaids on an as needed basis. I have had many, many animals on nsaids for years and years with no reactions.

    Also, tramadol is a good choice when nsaids are not indicated.

    We have also found that high doses of omega oils have an anti-inflammatory effect. The fish oils could make the GI symptoms worse.

    Doug, DVM

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