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- az99ExplorerThe gpedit does not work on Home version.
- crcrExplorerI tether my phone to my laptop via USB cable, and setting that connection as a Metered Connection is NOT possible. That is one of several reasons I won't ever be updating from Win 8.1 to Win 10, and have removed and blocked all Win10 nagware updates. I find that Win 8.1 is very very fast, and with the free software, Classic Shell, is very user friendly. Personally I find no need for Win 10.
- MrWizardModeratormetered connection
that only works for "wireless" aka wifi
if you are on a LAN with desktop hard wired
it doesn't work
for those using a hotspot..via wifi NOT usb, that should work
But Not if you tether the hotspot or phone via usb cable - OldmeExplorerIf bandwidth is a concern, go into your settings and set it for METERED CONNECTION.
You will then get only important security updates.
You can change it back once you have an un-metered connection to catch up on all the others. - rwbradleyExplorer
MrWizard wrote:
joebedford wrote:
MrWizard wrote:
I believe that is incorrect. If the CPU clock is stopped, there are no background processes running.
your PC ... might even being doing things you don't know about
all sleep does is blank the screen and pause user opened programs/windows
background processes keep operating
Yes, certain hardware might be running some very low level firmware to monitor when to tell the CPU to restart but those aren't "background processes".
and just how are you going to know that the cpu clock is stopped ?
Hibernation stops everything, stores data and program points on hard drive and shuts down
sleep does NOT do that, un plug your laptop power supply, put in sleep walk away for two days, come back and check the battery
you might it dead and the laptop unable to boot
Take a look at this quote from Wikipedia, not the most reliable source but accurate in this case and better written than I could have done). S1 is the lowest (First) level of sleep state for a computer, (barely asleep) but none the less the key is "CPU(s) stops executing instructions" = no brain, no workie, this is part of the specification all hardware manufactures follow. If it is asleep, the brain is off. The only other possible scenario is S0 where the monitor is off and all background task are running. This is not a sleep state however and if you close the lid on a laptop it always goes to at least S1 unless you specifically change the settings in the OS to tell it not to sleep when the lid is closed.
G0 (S0), Working: "Awaymode" is a subset of S0, where monitor is off but background tasks are running.
G1, Sleeping: Divided into four states, S1 through S4:
S1, Power on Suspend (POS): All the processor caches are flushed, and the CPU(s) stops executing instructions. The power to the CPU(s) and RAM is maintained. Devices that do not indicate they must remain on, may be powered off.
S2: CPU powered off. Dirty cache is flushed to RAM.
S3, commonly referred to as Standby, Sleep, or Suspend to RAM (STR): RAM remains powered.
S4, Hibernation or Suspend to Disk: All content of the main memory is saved to non-volatile memory such as a hard drive, and is powered down.
G2 (S5), Soft Off: G2/S5 is almost the same as G3 Mechanical Off, except that the power supply unit (PSU) still supplies power, at a minimum, to the power button to allow return to S0. A full reboot is required. No previous content is retained. Other components may remain powered so the computer can "wake" on input from the keyboard, clock, modem, LAN, or USB device.
G3, Mechanical Off: The computer's power has been totally removed via a mechanical switch (as on the rear of a PSU). The power cord can be removed and the system is safe for disassembly (typically, only the real-time clock continues to run - using its own small battery). - road-runnerExplorer IIIYou know the processor clock is stopped only because the definition of Sleep (S1, S2, or S3) says so. In any of the three sleep states the processor clock is off, or the processor is unpowered. Here's one of many web pages with the definitions:
Sleep States - Available on Your Windows 8 PC
As far as a laptop in Sleep losing its battery goes, every laptop I've worked with is configured to change over to Hibernate after "so many" minutes in sleep. It's configurable, so maybe not all laptops do it, but it sure makes sense to be set up that way. - The_TexanExplorerPersonal friends and I have been discussing this over the past couple days and none of them, NONE of them are happy with W-10 after a couple weeks. One is a hardware geek and also does firmware work and she says it is the WORST OS MS has ever put out for the public. Her advice to all her customers is do not upgrade at the present time.
road-runner wrote:
Could it be that some of us actually inform ourselves about the risk-reward ratio, accept the risks, and assume the responsibility for the decision?
You and I think alike road-runner. As an informed adult, I do not need or want others dictating to me about how I do things. - MrWizardModerator
joebedford wrote:
MrWizard wrote:
I believe that is incorrect. If the CPU clock is stopped, there are no background processes running.
your PC ... might even being doing things you don't know about
all sleep does is blank the screen and pause user opened programs/windows
background processes keep operating
Yes, certain hardware might be running some very low level firmware to monitor when to tell the CPU to restart but those aren't "background processes".
and just how are you going to know that the cpu clock is stopped ?
Hibernation stops everything, stores data and program points on hard drive and shuts down
sleep does NOT do that, un plug your laptop power supply, put in sleep walk away for two days, come back and check the battery
you might it dead and the laptop unable to boot - road-runnerExplorer III
Don't disable Windows Updates. That is like saying lets all stop going to the dentist because the fluoride treatment may cause cancer or don't changing the oil on your cars because you are adding more oil into landfill or don't get vaccinations because they may cause Autism.
Add to that "It's like disconnecting the ABS in your car". All of these analogies sound like what comes from campaigning politicians, and have nothing to do with the risks and rewards of controlling the updates. How about these for more intimidation phrases?
Disabling updates is like driving around in a Class A without crash test improvements, airbags, and other government-mandated safety features.
Disabling updates is like getting a drink out of the fridge while in motion.
Disabling updates is like eating and driving at the same time.
Disabling updates is like not greasing your wheel bearings every year.
Disabling updates is like driving into a campground where you rig is a foot longer than the maximum allowed length.
Disabling updates is like not driving a ground rod for your portable generator as instructed by the manufacturer.
Could it be that some of us actually inform ourselves about the risk-reward ratio, accept the risks, and assume the responsibility for the decision? - joebedfordNomad II
MrWizard wrote:
I believe that is incorrect. If the CPU clock is stopped, there are no background processes running.
your PC ... might even being doing things you don't know about
all sleep does is blank the screen and pause user opened programs/windows
background processes keep operating
Yes, certain hardware might be running some very low level firmware to monitor when to tell the CPU to restart but those aren't "background processes".
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