I'm a little confused about the Hopper/Joey/VIP 211z wiring comments. When I received my VIP 211z/Tailgater package, the first thing I did was connect it to my home antenna, (removed the cable to my Hopper and connected it to the VIP 211z) to do it's download and to activate the receiver. It worked fine no wiring changes. I also had to talk to a supervisor to activate the VIP 211z on my current home account. My understanding is that this restriction was a marketing one not due to incompatibility of the two technologies. The supervisor immediately knew what I was trying to do and activated the receiver. I did have some issues with adding an external drive to enable the DVR function, but that is for another thread.