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pianotuna wrote:
valhalla360,

My netflix access is through a shared account based in Florida.

Netflix is no longer encouraging shared accounts. My profile is listed. But I access Netflix in many locations--mostly in Canada.

So they may, or may not, cut off my access.

I don't use a vpn. Perhaps I should say I won't use a vpn to spoof a system.

If you log into the Canadian Netflix site from Canada using a legitimate account, you are fine as the Canadian site has copyright to the shows on the Canadian site and Netflix knows who you are and can take action if your account shouldn't have access in Canada.

Using a vpn, is perfectly legal in most cases. It's using it for illegal purposes (in this case more of a civil rather than criminal issue) where you can in principal run into problems.

So far there has been only token efforts to stop it. My suspicion is that Netflix is only interested in providing plausible deniability, if someone is looking for deep pockets and tries to drag them into a copyright lawsuit. They want to be able to point to the terms & conditions and say that it was the user tricking the system and Netflix played no active part.

But as mentioned, so far no one is making much of a fuss about it. Of course, there are plenty of people straight up pirating who get away with it because enforcement at the consumer level is negligible.

The reason I brought it up is my understanding is the forum rules prohibit recommending illegal activities.

valhalla360 wrote:


The reason I brought it up is my understanding is the forum rules prohibit recommending illegal activities.

Got it, Perhaps I shouldnt post anything about the time I removed the tags on the sofa cushions, then sold the whole thing to someone else on Craigslist. I've been sweating about that one for years.

VPN are not illegal,
There are no laws against using a VPN,
Using a VPN to watch a British Television show from Florida or Australia because the BBC doesn't want to supply it to them , is not against the law, it's the 2023 version of using a multiband shortwave radio to listed to distant forgien Radio stations, if the BBC or any other service AKA YouTube is putting cost free streaming on the internet does geo-blocking to Web users, because your web IP address is not regional to them, it's dumb, it's short sighted, as it curtails possible viewership, I was NOT suggesting doing anything illegal, only suggesting using a VPN when out of town , would allow a person to watch the same video streams as when at home base, vpns are geographic by Nation , you can choose the server IP by country , you can camp in Texas and have the VPN use a server in France or Australia, AFAIK this is not be TEXAS and choose New York or Calif,
And your paid services usually don't care where you are, because you use your personal account and login to access them,
I have Amazon Prime for over ten years, I know the IP address for my Verizon Phone changed Everytime I moved the RV, but whenever I turned on the computer and logged in to watch a TV series or movie on prime video, it worked , I didn't have a VPN then and don't now, my account, my device, my yearly PMT,
Vpns add a level of privacy and security not obtainable by other means, I just have not felt compelled to use one .. Yet
But that day is not too far off ,
I'm above average when it comes to the internet and computers, but I'm not the IT super tech, that my son is, but he wouldn't be what he is if he had not followed my interest , I am more advanced in electronics and hardware than he is,
Any way I know the day is coming when I will choose a VPN service to use, many of you would be safer online if you used one,
My skill level has prevented me having the computer problems many of you have run into, and complicated your life, I have an Anti-Tracking Background service running on my phone and on this Tablet, we all know Google watches us, our browsing etc..
But very few people realize how almost every App on your phone is always running in the background with hidden data gathering services, analytical used for marketing and sold to other entities , thousands of pieces of data collected everyday your name device location, what you are doing with that phone
Here are a few screen shots, if you are concerned about privacy , this should scare you, almost 200,000 tracking attempts blocked in the past 7 days,

The first image is just a few of the apps container trackers from other apps or data companies, AKA. Data mining


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The image below is some of the trackers in One app, I enjoy this app.. America's Best Pics & Videos, These are trackers inside this app collecting data , I am Not on Facebook, I do not have a Facebook account, Facebook should not be paying ABPV to include it's tracker and be collecting my info, I am not a Facebook user !! Google 4700+ attempts too track data, Facebook 1003 attempts too track data, and this is from inside ABPV


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This image below, is all the data Facebook is trying to collect about me, I am not on Facebook, Now please understand, Face book is just one of the trackers in ABPV there are many more, most of which are strictly data mining companies collecting and selling data , Branch Metrics is another tracker collecting the same data, one of many trackers, the number of trackers is different for each app, and some trackers collect less data than Facebook tracker, the Google tracker is in every free app you download from play store, and it collects a huge amount of data,



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This is a long image, a full list of the Trackers in ABPV, listed for each tracker is the number of tracking attempts, and a number under saying how many more data items that tracker was trying to collect,
Example 26 more, 15 more, etc
If I expanded the list to show every item in each tracker the image would be 20 times longer than what is shown


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Good info to know. You know your stuff Mr. Wizard and may the Lord save us from the puritans. I think I used settings to stop my phone apps from running in background when not in actual use. Have to ck again.

Hi Mr Wizard,

If one really doesn't want to be tracked there is always the Tor web browser.

I do appreciate you sharing your knowledge.

DuckDuckGo is a very good secure privacy Browser and the Tracker Blocker is a New Beta feature in the Browser, and you have a choice of turning the tracker blocking off for any app, if it gives you a problem with that Apps operation,
I know Google has my data, that's how they provide all those targeted ads on things you look at, it's all the other sneaky **** , like Facebook which I don't use, and those data miners,
If I fill out a survey form, that's by consent, but what I'm watching on my tablet at 11pm , where I am, my name , zip code, GPS location, is invasion of privacy, it's none of their F-ing business, it's Tantamount to illegal wire tapping and bugging of my residence,

MrWizard wrote:
VPN are not illegal,
There are no laws against using a VPN,

Correct. VPNs are generally legal in most countries (even some of the more repressive ones).

It's if you use it to bypass copyright where it gets questionable.

To bypass copyright you have to be distributing media you have no legal right to be reproducing and distributing,
You don't need a VPN to do that,
But using a VPN prevents your internet provider from seeing the encrypted content of the data you are uploading, so they don't report your illegal activity too authorities,
For Honest people, it prevents anything anybody between you and your bank or business partner etc..monitoring your IP address stealing your info personal and financial

A VPN client can be installed in your home WiFi router and everything .. every device connecting to that router will be secured , I don't have a list of models, but many models have that feature, You won't find that in the Router from your cable supplier, you buy your own router, use a LAN ether net cable to connect IT, to the cable modem , and use your router for all of your internet , not the one from the cable company, all the info about trackers embedded in apps is about Android, because it is so predominant now, I have no experience with apple phones iOS, I have run a Proxy server on my laptop, it's VPN poor cousin, I posted the tracking info because I only recently became aware of how bad the situation is after I decided to dig into it, I have been using Duck duck go, for sometime on my laptop, and saw there was a new feature in my recent update for Android, right now Android is the biggest risk to a person's privacy and financial security, I like Android phones and tablets but have a level of experience and knowledge the average Android phone user does not have, there are others on here with even more expertise than me, I didn't realize how much data mining was going on with some of these popular apps, there are apps I have that do not have the Facebook tracker or depth of intrusion it provides, if a developer wants to how much I use their App and certain features, that is market research, But sticking there spy in another app not developed by them to aquire info on my use habits my name my gps location , (quoting Daffy Duck) I consider that dispicable .
They want to know what devices are popular they can look at sales figures, mfg and providers love to brag about that, aggregated use figures don't need my name etc. Especially services and apps that I don't use.

I have Amazon Prime , I have A Fire Stick and prime video, Paramount, tubi, xumo,Roku,Plex,freevee, crackle etc..

I have Amazon apps on my phone on this Tablet, they know what devices are registered to my account, they know when I'm logged in and what I'm watching,

But their tracker is in ABPV trying to collect all the data you see in the next image

Data not related to being on Amazon streaming video or buying things


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