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Dec 07, 2017

Hopper 1 & 2 Simplified Wiring

If you use either a Hopper 1 (original) or Hopper 2 (Hopper with Sling), you can use DISH Pro Hybrid (DPH) equipment to use less wiring -- For DISH TV Geeks Only.
  • Dutch_12078 wrote:
    I have two 50' unrated RG6 extensions I've used at times with my 1000.4 dish and Hopper w/Sling with no problems on a 200' total run. I would at least try an on-hand unrated or lower rated RG6 cable before ruling it out. You may be surprised...


    What about the hopper/joey configuration?
  • I have two 50' unrated RG6 extensions I've used at times with my 1000.4 dish and Hopper w/Sling with no problems on a 200' total run. I would at least try an on-hand unrated or lower rated RG6 cable before ruling it out. You may be surprised...
  • justme wrote:
    Thanks for the reply. I assume the cable to the Hopper must be 3ghz rated. I doubt many RV have that quality of cable. So if one has the Traveler type dish with multi-lnbs what will happen if the cable to the hopper is not 3ghz rated? Has anyone tried it with the lower grade 2ghz type cables that most RV mfgs use?


    The answer to your question is it wont work well if at all. However, low quality cable like most RV mfg's use may work if it is short enough. It is all about DB loss per ft and non 3ghz cable will have a much higher loss at 3ghz per foot than 2ghz cable.
  • justme wrote:
    I assume the cable to the Hopper must be 3ghz rated. I doubt many RV have that quality of cable. So if one has the Traveler type dish with multi-lnbs what will happen if the cable to the hopper is not 3ghz rated? Has anyone tried it with the lower grade 2ghz type cables that most RV mfgs use?

    In a Hopper 1, 2, or 3 network the only cabling that should be rated 3 GHz is the coax from a node or hub to the Hopper itself, like so . . .

    Dashed red line is 3 GHz in these examples:

    Hopper 1 or 2 Example

    Hopper 3 Example
  • Dutch_12078 wrote:
    justme wrote:
    Will the Dish Hybrid Solo Node work with a Wineguard Carryout Dish?


    No. None of the dome style portable or roof mount dishes work with any of the Hopper series DVR receivers. The multiple (3-16) tuners need access to multiple satellites at the same time to accommodate multiple satellite recordings.


    Thanks for the reply. I assume the cable to the Hopper must be 3ghz rated. I doubt many RV have that quality of cable. So if one has the Traveler type dish with multi-lnbs what will happen if the cable to the hopper is not 3ghz rated? Has anyone tried it with the lower grade 2ghz type cables that most RV mfgs use?
  • justme wrote:
    Will the Dish Hybrid Solo Node work with a Wineguard Carryout Dish?


    No. None of the dome style portable or roof mount dishes work with any of the Hopper series DVR receivers. The multiple (3-16) tuners need access to multiple satellites at the same time to accommodate multiple satellite recordings.
  • Will the Dish Hybrid Solo Node work with a Wineguard Carryout Dish?
  • Good points, but not enough to make me abandon my existing 1000.4 DPP setup to downgrade to a 1000.2 and DPH setup... ;)
  • Dutch_12078 wrote:
    I have my Solo Node installed at the dish, so only one coax run is needed going to the RV.

    True enough. But . . .
    . . . your Solo Node is on your dish as opposed to inside your RV
    . . . the single coax you run from that Solo Node should be 3 GHz, but cable to a Hybrid Solo Node can be 2 MHz
    . . . you need to use a Tap while that's not necessary for a Hybrid Solo Node.

  • I have my Solo Node installed at the dish, so only one coax run is needed going to the RV. A Tap inside the RV divides the MOCA signal between the Hopper 2 and Joey. A splitter would allow more Joey's. With a Duo Node and 2 Hopper 2's, I would need 2 coax runs and be able to connect 2 or more Joey's with Taps and splitters.