If You Don't Like Windows10?

I finally found out on Win 8.1 on my laptop how to shut off all updates and when we travel I now do just that - after one trip where to read email I had a two hour session of automatic updates to wait through before I could shut down. I expect that Win 10 will have the same thing - or, if not, someone will come up with a way to turn off automatic updating. I will not update my Win 7 pcs to Win 10. If MS wants to stop supporting Win 7 they will further be shooting themselves in the foot. I will update the Win 8.1 laptop to Win 10 as I do not like 8.1 and before that happens I will have a final complete backup of the Win 8.1 computer to restore it to if Win 10 stinks even worse.

Then there is always Linux which if not using Windows specific software packages - runs faster, and has open source software duplicating just about everything needed in software - including compatibility with Windows file formats.

chuckbear wrote:
The one issue I have with the W10 upgrade is the forced updates. You have no way to turn them off. It isn't about the updates themselves but being forced to update can eat up big chunks of my data plan without my control. Now we do our updates when we have access to WiFi, and defer them when we are using our data. These updates cab be hundreds of MB's and you won't be able to stop them. We just may stay with our Windows 7 since there have been no issues with it and the support will still be there until this computer bites the dust. But of course, this is just my opinion and we all know what opinions are like. Chuck

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MS updates are often 100MB+ multiple times per month. With my Verizon data and bandwidth restrictions I need to be in charge of when and what gets update and that may be several months down the road.

MS just had 3 Office 10 updates for 32 bit for W7. I have 64 bit and Office 7. MS is out of control.

AsheGuy wrote:

8.1 Van wrote:
...I don't see were Microsoft is in trouble with desktop OSs.

Maybe, but for all other hardware platforms it is not really a player and its cloud based software is behind the curve including its Office suite.

Microsoft fell into the same rut that IBM did years ago of milking its cash cows too long.

X2, plus desktops are a declining % of the computer market, what with laptops, tablets, phablets, and smartphones. M-soft has tried to break into the tablet and smartphone market, but no one wants their crap. And I should mention, I say all this while disclosing that we have two Windows desktops and one laptop here in our household. However, I would never buy any of their other products, and I am not even enamored with their OS. Desktops are a commodity and I won't pay the cost of an Apple desktop, so by default we have Windoze machines.

8.1 Van wrote:
...I don't see were Microsoft is in trouble with desktop OSs.

Maybe, but for all other hardware platforms it is not really a player and its cloud based software is behind the curve including its Office suite.

Microsoft fell into the same rut that IBM did years ago of milking its cash cows too long.

Microsoft has about the same 90% desktop OS market share it had 10 years ago and Linux has the same 1.61% it had 10 years ago so I don't see were Microsoft is in trouble with desktop OSs. Ballmer screwed up by paying too much for Nokia but Satya Nadella just undid Steve Ballmer's last big mistake

Microsoft is losing the tech war. I doubt they are dumb enough to accelerate the slippage that might come if some of the speculation here is true. But they might be...

I'm not sure I've heard anything about Microsoft that I would call a conspiracy theory. However, I do think the average user's trust level in Microsoft in general, and Windows OS in particular is at an all-time low, and it will take a while for most people to establish the same level of trust they've had in the past.

What's amusing is all the conspiracy theories that popup whenever MS intros a new OS. Don't recall the same reaction from Apple users when they went to free OS upgrades? The answer is really simple? If you don't trust it, don't install it. You still have 5 years of support for WIN 7, and 8 years for WIN 8.1 remaining. You can pretty much expect WIN 10 hardware/software incompatibility issues to crop up as has been the case for past WIN upgrades. You have a year to decide whether you want the Free upgrade or not? Or do what I've done with every new MS OS,and install it as dual-boot. Not as an in place upgrade.

When did MS ever invalidate the COA of a previous OS install when upgrading? In fact, it was only used to verify eligibility to upgrade? The upgrade itself coming with its own key. Whether you downloaded or bought a retail package.

Windows users will be able to roll back the installation, supposedly, nothing is guaranteed, for Windows 7 and 8. However, you may only have 30 days, there is this "NOTE: Please be aware the Windows.old folder located at the root of the local disk where Windows 10 is installed will be deleted after 30 days automatically. The Windows.old folder is used to facilitate the rollback. So please perform any rollback within 30 days or this option will no longer be available. Otherwise, create a backup before upgrading to Windows 10." The rollback process is a little involved. For older operating systems, you probably won't be able to. A lot still is unknown. Chuck

It won't work like that with W 10. With the Pro, which you pay for, you can defer the updates but not refuse them and only for a period of time. The commercial users, Enterprise, can choose to not update. Everything is forced with the Home users. Chuck