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Need help with small solar project

Hi folks, this isn't RV related but I'm hoping the solar experts in this forum can lend a helping hand with my project. I want to install a wireless IP webcam in a location where there are no elect...
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I want to install a wireless IP webcam in a location where there are no electric outlets nearby.

The webcams consume 4 to 7 watts and are powered by 5 to 12V DC current. I want to install a solar panel and a battery that will power the camera 24/7 but don't know the size of solar panel and battery required to make it work. I also don't know if I'll need peripheral components such as a charge controller.

I have an old 125W automobile-type inverter with a cigarette-lighter plug lying around that I thought I could use and just connect the power adapter that comes with the webcam to the inverter.

For aesthetics reasons, I'm hoping a motorcycle or UPS backup battery will work so I can house all the necessary components in a small weather-resistant enclosure near the webcam.

If it helps determining the size of the solar panel and battery, the webcam will be installed in a full-sun location in the desert.

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I want to install a wireless IP webcam in a location where there are no electric outlets nearby.

The webcams consume 4 to 7 watts and are powered by 5 to 12V DC current. I want to install a solar panel and a battery that will power the camera 24/7 but don't know the size of solar panel and battery required to make it work. I also don't know if I'll need peripheral components such as a charge controller.

I have an old 125W automobile-type inverter with a cigarette-lighter plug lying around that I thought I could use and just connect the power adapter that comes with the webcam to the inverter.

For aesthetics reasons, I'm hoping a motorcycle or UPS backup battery will work so I can house all the necessary components in a small weather-resistant enclosure near the webcam.

If it helps determining the size of the solar panel and battery, the webcam will be installed in a full-sun location in the desert.

Thanks in advance for your help."},"Conversation:conversation:2882301":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:2882301","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2882301"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2017-10-28T08:35:36.000-07:00","lastPostTime":"2017-10-28T08:35:36.000-07:00","unreadReplyCount":12,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2882301":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2882301","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:2882301_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:2882301_1","lastEditTime":"2017-10-26T10:51:22.000-07:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2882312":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:2882312","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2882301"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:2851"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":2882312,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"subject":"Re: Need help with small solar project","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2882312"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2882301"},"body":"Let's assume 7w and it runs 24hrs per day (as someone mentioned, far better to actually measure), that works out to 168w or about 14 amp-hr at 12v. Figure 20amp-hr to account for inefficiency. That results in needing a 40amp-hr battery as you can't take a lead acid battery below 50% without damage. Wouldn't be a bad idea to bump it up to 80amp-hr, so if you have a couple overcast days it doesn't kill the battery.

That's likely going to exceed what a lawn tractor battery can do. It might work for a week or so as the battery fully discharges but eventually it will kill the battery.

You might need to bump it up a touch for the charge controller. They don't take much but you are working with a really small system so it might be an impact.

If you go with a 12v camera, you can wire it directly to the battery without a converter which is simpler and more efficient.

As far as the solar panels, you need to put out about 200watt-hr per day. Figure you get about 4hr total of the rated output (it varies across the day and you almost never get the full rated output), so figure at least a 50w panel. Bumping up to 75w would be a good idea to help recover after an overcast day.","body@stringLength":"1224","rawBody":"Let's assume 7w and it runs 24hrs per day (as someone mentioned, far better to actually measure), that works out to 168w or about 14 amp-hr at 12v. Figure 20amp-hr to account for inefficiency. That results in needing a 40amp-hr battery as you can't take a lead acid battery below 50% without damage. Wouldn't be a bad idea to bump it up to 80amp-hr, so if you have a couple overcast days it doesn't kill the battery.

That's likely going to exceed what a lawn tractor battery can do. It might work for a week or so as the battery fully discharges but eventually it will kill the battery.

You might need to bump it up a touch for the charge controller. They don't take much but you are working with a really small system so it might be an impact.

If you go with a 12v camera, you can wire it directly to the battery without a converter which is simpler and more efficient.

As far as the solar panels, you need to put out about 200watt-hr per day. Figure you get about 4hr total of the rated output (it varies across the day and you almost never get the full rated output), so figure at least a 50w panel. 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