Route Planning Software for Android

Kiwi_too wrote:

kgarrett9999 wrote:

Tom_M wrote:
A quick search of Amazon found this:
Dell Venue 8 Pro 32 GB Tablet (Windows 8.1) for $199.

That looks interesting and very decent price. Will it run Streets & Trips?

Note: Street & Trips will no longer be produced by MS.

I already own multiple copies of Streets & Trips.

There are ways to move the map files on Copilot for Android to the external SD. It should work with Android versions that still allow moving an app to the internal SD. Newest Android versions stopped doing this. You must move to internal SD first. Then it involves physically moving from internal SD to external SD of the Copilot's com.alk folder and changing some path references to external SD in the user.cfg file. Google this and various methods will come up but the one that seems to work most consistently is actually cutting and pasting the entire com.alk folder from internal SD to the external SD. Google for directions. Try it with the free version before buying. You can always uninstall it if it does not work. Test with one map region download - after all moves have been made. I have it working on my external SD card. If I update Android to a newer rom it will likely not work any longer.

Copilot has been asked about this for a long time and now their answer is it does not work on new versions of Android and it is Android's fault. They admit now that it can be done on older Android.


As said, all map updates are free - but if you want to continue live traffic after one year, there is a $10 annual fee for the traffic service and the traffic service does require a data connection - so no wifi unless you have a hotspot always running while you drive.

Tom_M wrote:
A quick search of Amazon found this:
Dell Venue 8 Pro 32 GB Tablet (Windows 8.1) for $199.

That looks interesting and very decent price. Will it run Streets & Trips?

A quick search of Amazon found this:
Dell Venue 8 Pro 32 GB Tablet (Windows 8.1) for $199.

MrWizard wrote:
people used to run streets&tips on WinXP with a pentitum and then celeron processors

how can they call the new tablets with intel processors underpowered

Less power than a I7 desk top.. sure

but way more power than any Pentium ever had..

I think this was for me.

I was recently looking for a tablet to run windoze apps and *many* were in the 1-2GB RAM range with woefully small storage.

The new MS Surface 3 looks quite promising, especially the 8G/256Gig version, but $1400+ puts it into the "better be for fulltime use" category for me.

I haven't used a Surface tablet yet, but I used some of the first TabletPCs...must be around 15yrs ago when they were around $3k each and were weighed by poundage ;)

At that time the windows OS was quite unsuitable for touch/pen usage and battery life wasn't very good.

I'm okay with $300-$500 for a secondary, uber-portable device like a tablet. If I played with a Surface tablet for a few weeks, maybe I'd be convinced, but I've been burnt many times by believing specs and pitches- even trusting a company's reputation.

I have a Zune, Toshiba tablet that can never be rooted, Motorola Droid 2 that wouldn't use wifi reliably for the first year it was released, Visio "Smart" TV that didn't enable about half the advertised features, remote barely worked for a year, and still crashes about once per week.

I follow reviews by CNet, ZDNet, and other tech places...who I am convinced are now written by teenagers who are "bribed" with cool tech and can't spell "objective review." :R

If someone has first hand experience they would like to share, by all means, please start another thread and post a link ;)

I used Delorme Street Atlas with downloaded imagery years ago on a PocketPC Dell Axim. It was slow to refresh, but it was (and still is) the BEST handheld navigation and mapping system I've used. The hardware and supportability eventually died :(

Delorme has their new portable satellite navigation products, and I've used the PN-40. It stinks. The interface is...well, remember trying to set the time on those cheap china digital watches, where you hold button for 3 secs while pressing button 1 for one function, then button 2 for another, and if you messed up the sequence you started over or changed the time by a minute? (Wonder why those were often 5-8 minutes fast :) )

This is a bit more than just Android navigation, but the discussion of a couple of handheld platform alternatives could be useful. At this point it seems Android on a tablet is the way to go.

10" screen and decent CoPilot software is my choice. $350 for tablet with GPS/wifi/BT and $10 for software. It's about $50-100 less now than when I bought the tablet.

I tried Navigon before CoPilot and really, really didn't like it. Had to fight with company to refund the purchase. Google Play had a "refund within 10 mins" policy. Navigon sent a link after installation to download a gig or more of data from their SLOW servers, taking about half an hour. It was a battle, but I won. Germany (their host country) has very STRONG consumer protection laws.

Nope. One time fee.

Are the map updates for copilot premium free for that $9.99 fee and does that expire...will one have to pay more to keep the updates coming?

Denny & Jami wrote:

The Co Pilot would be great but you can't load the maps onto a SD card so you need 1.7gb open in your internal memory, I only have 1gb open on my tablet.

Denny

That apparently varies depending on the device make/model and/or Android version. My ZTE Valet for instance, running Android 4.1.1, installed the maps and most of the other CoPilot files on my 16GB SD card.

1775 wrote:
Copilot Premium for Android is $10 - lately on sale for $7.99 at the Play Store. It is one of the few GPS apps that you can download all maps right onto your phone or tablet and use the nav with no data service. The Premium has all of the features of a dash GPS PLUS it has RV routing for height and propane. There is also a free version but the free version does not speak street names or reroute automatically if you go off route - the premium version does. You can create a route with multiple stops.

The Co Pilot would be great but you can't load the maps onto a SD card so you need 1.7gb open in your internal memory, I only have 1gb open on my tablet.

Denny