This discussion fits right into my present satellite dish conundrum. Have had a Tailgater for two years. Did not realize initially how difficult getting at least two (110/119) if not the third (129) western arc sats when I am in a forested area but fully understand the nature of the beast. I do like the automatic acquisition though. I have learned the nuances, use apps and a compass to dial in as best I can and run extra coax as need be. Now I am on the fence about either upgrading to a Pathway X2 for the additional option of eastern arc sats or adding a tripod dish to my resources and dial into a sat more methodically, although trees are still an issue. Although I am not a residential Dish customer I use it on the road more months than not. It is easier for me to suspend the service a month or two and restart it than totally closing out the account and rebooting the entire system IMHO.