Satellite TV is Dead, Direct TV just lost 267,000 customers

Well ... all this "death of satellite TV discussion" ASSUMES that users are living around cities/towns with high speed wired Internet access for HD and/or 4K streaming. Not all of us are in that boat.

For us rural type folks with only 7-9 Mbps download speeds fed from a private wide area wireless network - we'll be keeping DISH satellite service in order to reliably receive specific news, educational, and documentary channels - some of which aren't available via the Internet.

We can only stream about 2 HD channels (renter plus us) at once on our 7-9 Mbps connection using a modern dual band ac router. We subscribe to Amazon Prime, Netflix, Acorn, and Britbox in order to be assured of decent material to stream at all times. DISH is our only source of data speeds high enough for any (rare) 4K streaming.

Being rurally located we like backup redundancy, so having both a satellite DISH feed and a wireless Internet feed available provides this. We have for years had one or the other occasionally go down.

Bill.Satellite wrote:

timmac wrote:

Bill.Satellite wrote:
A topic started by a guy who believes there are DIGITAL and/or HDTV antennas.
Snore!
You can post random thoughts and regurgitate "stuff" you have read elsewhere (if it's on the internet it must be true!) but if you really have no idea what you are talking about it might be better to just sit on the sidelines or ask what others think.

Yea we need to sue this company and Camping World for selling a fake HDTV antennae and false advertisement..

Wait don't RV manufactures put something similar on there RV's now and call it a HDTV antennae, **** we need to sue them all, false advertainment..




https://kingconnect.com/product/king-omnigo-portable-omnidirectional-ota-hdtv-antenna/
OmniGo Omnidirectional Portable HDTV Antenna :)

What you do not seem to have the capacity to understand is that a COAT HANGER connected to the back of an DIGITAL/HDTV is also an antenna capable of receiving the digital signals. NOTHING has changed from pre-digital to the current digital service in the way the signal is received. An antenna from the 50's will work just as well as an antenna built today. Signals have always been broadcast on UHF and VHF frequencies. That's what the antenna receives. The only slight change is that more broadcasts are done on the UHF frequencies so an antenna optimized for UHF may perform better than one that is not.
What marketing speak manufacturers use on their boxes to convince buyers to buy their products is a completely different subject.

I understand its just a antennae, but a few on here attacked me just cause I used the word Digital Antennae seem to set them off..

I wonder if these same few go into stores and hold up the HDTV antennae's and scream out to the shoppers that this is false advertisement.

Heck I was just using the term as said by the many antennae manufactures and the sellers..

:C

Is a HDTV antenna required when I am streeming?

Sounds a bit like the Rockwell Retro Encabulator:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXJKdh1KZ0w&list=PLNZodcmttc6IcROoVpZJiudVNpo4XPO-I

It is all so simple the antenna receives the signal and the receiver demodulates the signal into usable form.
At the receiver, the signal from the antenna is amplified and downconverted to IF or directly to the original baseband signals. The amplified signal from the antenna is applied to mixers along with the carrier signal. Again, there is a 90° shift between the carrier signals applied to the mixers.

The mixers produce the original baseband analog signals, which are then digitized in a pair of analog-to-digital converters (ADCs) and sent to the DSP circuitry where demodulation algorithms recover the original digital data.

So now you understand the antennas job is to receive the signal am/fm/pm who cares the receiver does all the work.

I'm surprised they let this go on for this long......... :h :R

Dan

Where do I buy a digital cable to connect my digital tv to my digital antenna?

Any more popcorn? anyone want another beer?

timmac wrote:

Bill.Satellite wrote:
A topic started by a guy who believes there are DIGITAL and/or HDTV antennas.
Snore!
You can post random thoughts and regurgitate "stuff" you have read elsewhere (if it's on the internet it must be true!) but if you really have no idea what you are talking about it might be better to just sit on the sidelines or ask what others think.

Yea we need to sue this company and Camping World for selling a fake HDTV antennae and false advertisement..

Wait don't RV manufactures put something similar on there RV's now and call it a HDTV antennae, **** we need to sue them all, false advertainment..




https://kingconnect.com/product/king-omnigo-portable-omnidirectional-ota-hdtv-antenna/
OmniGo Omnidirectional Portable HDTV Antenna :)

What you do not seem to have the capacity to understand is that a COAT HANGER connected to the back of an DIGITAL/HDTV is also an antenna capable of receiving the digital signals. NOTHING has changed from pre-digital to the current digital service in the way the signal is received. An antenna from the 50's will work just as well as an antenna built today. Signals have always been broadcast on UHF and VHF frequencies. That's what the antenna receives. The only slight change is that more broadcasts are done on the UHF frequencies so an antenna optimized for UHF may perform better than one that is not.
What marketing speak manufacturers use on their boxes to convince buyers to buy their products is a completely different subject.

IIRC, P.T. Barnum had an appropriate saying for this thread.
bumpy