It looks like manufacturers of PCs will no longer be allowed to build PCs with Windows 7 anymore, though inventory can be sold until it's gone. If you can't stand Windows 10 and need a new Windows machine, this is the time to buy it.News ArticleBill

One way to do it: Make yourself a system builder.System Builder OEMs: White-box PC makers who purchase OEM System Builder media for installation on new PCs can continue to build and sell those PCs. Microsoft won't be stocking the channel with new OEM media, but past experience suggests there will be plenty of inventory for years to come.Or just buy OEM media and wipe Windows 10 - replace with Win7. Not all that easy on a UEFI system but most still have legacy settings. It's a little tougher given that OEM media is usually specific to the mfr hardware. So you can't just buy any old PC and put a Dell OEM DVD on it. You'd need drivers.You can still downgrade those Win10 machines to 7 or 8.1, until MS decides NOT to support Win7 or 8.1 anymore.End of sale - not the same as end of support.I still suggest Linux and WINE for your windows 7 apps, but that's even more convoluted...and you still need the .exe's and to dual-boot... long term though, Linux has come a long way and JUST about provides replacements for Microsoft apps. It's the troubleshooting and updates that'll really annoy you.

Good riddance. As an IT professional, I hate having to support Windows 7 until 2025, or further. It is so slow and cumbersome compared to Windows 8 and 10. On the flip side, a lot of the software vendors I have to deal with still think Windows 7 is new, and are resistant to upgrading their software from the Windows XP days. When I ask my software vendors about windows 10 support, the answer "Oh that just came out, it'll be a while yet" it really boils my blood. For a developer registered with Microsoft Win 10 has been available more than two years now - plus the background API and internal guts aren't really that different from Win 8 in terms of software development - and that's been out more than four years now.

I've found that once you tweak Win10 a little bit, it's really not much different than Win7. Most of my work PCs use 7, and I have 10 at home. It's not difficult to move back and forth. I missed being able to find some items easily in Win10, and don't like having to do a search all the time. Once I found the control panel, I pinned it to the task bar, and all the nitty-gritty stuff is easily found. The main thing I dislike is the removal of the basic photo viewer & manager. Surprisingly, if you want to do some simple edits of pictures, you can open a Word document, insert the picture, and do quite a bit of editing within Word. Then right-click and save the edited picture.

coolmom42 wrote:I missed being able to find some items easily in Win10, and don't like having to do a search all the time. Once I found the control panel, I pinned it to the task bar, and all the nitty-gritty stuff is easily found. All you need is... GODMODE

Windows 10 is what Windows 7 and 8 should have been. Get to know it. It's isn't going anywhere...

This may be the end of buying a new Windows 7 PC.

Chris_Bryant
Explorer II
Oct 27, 2016
I have managed to buy 2 off the shelf, name brand computers without Windows of any kind- a Dell laptop with Ubuntu preinstalled, and later a Lenovo Server- quad core, 16gb memory, no hard drive, no OS box for just over $330. I have win7 on a virtual machine should I ever need it- the only thing I use it for now is Turbo Tax, and I could get away from that reasonably easily.
road-runner
Explorer III
Oct 27, 2016
I ran across this article about Levono adding Windows bloatware and spyware from the BIOS. There are multiple sources confirming it, and Levono has made a BIOS update available to remove it, so I assume it's true. It started with Windows 7. Won't it be ironic is the best "upgrade" for Windows turns out to be going back to XP?

CAUGHT: Lenovo crams unremovable crapware into Windows laptops – by hiding it in the BIOS
GordonThree
Explorer
Oct 27, 2016
road-runner wrote:
I ran across this article about Levono adding Windows bloatware and spyware from the BIOS. There are multiple sources confirming it, and Levono has made a BIOS update available to remove it, so I assume it's true. It started with Windows 7. Won't it be ironic is the best "upgrade" for Windows turns out to be going back to XP?

CAUGHT: Lenovo crams unremovable crapware into Windows laptops – by hiding it in the BIOS

I'll never buy a Lenovo product. I was really disappointed when they bought Motorola from Google.
jackquontee
Explorer
Oct 28, 2016
Is Microsoft even supporting Windows 7 anymore? I haven't been able to perform an update on mine in some months now.
GordonThree
Explorer
Oct 28, 2016
jackquontee wrote:
Is Microsoft even supporting Windows 7 anymore? I haven't been able to perform an update on mine in some months now.

Mainstream support is done, however serious security / operational flaws that are discovered will still be patched for the next 4 years or so, 2020...
fj12ryder
Explorer III
Oct 28, 2016
Mine have been updating on a regular basis. Just did a couple updates yesterday, and a couple more today.

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