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Apr 27, 2014

Whats wrong with Windows 8.1?

I have read a lot of posts about Win 8.1.

Some say they will never touch it or they hate it or it sucks or any number of other complaints.

Then there are some that say they like Win 8.1 and think its great.

So I ask - What's wrong with Windows 8.1?

Now I'm not looking for things like I can't find anything - I don't know where this or that is, that is a user issue, not a Win 8.1 issue.

I'm wanting to know what is wrong with the OS itself, and WHY it is no good to some of you. If you simply can't figure out how to use it, thats called a learning curve. Like learning a new skill.

I just bought a brand new, really high end laptop. Cost me big bucks and it came with Win 8.1.

I launched it and wow, talk about different!

But I can't find anything! I don't know where this and that is like Win 7.
But I have only just begun this OS journey. I will figure it out and learn how it works!!

Not trying to open a can of worms here, just trying to find out what people hate about it! :B:B

So, what are the issues with the OS itself?

I am typing this on my aging old trusty laptop with XP Pro. And I know how to find everything!! :B

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Some say they will never touch it or they hate it or it sucks or any number of other complaints.

Then there are some that say they like Win 8.1 and think its great.

So I ask - What's wrong with Windows 8.1?

Now I'm not looking for things like I can't find anything - I don't know where this or that is, that is a user issue, not a Win 8.1 issue.

I'm wanting to know what is wrong with the OS itself, and WHY it is no good to some of you. If you simply can't figure out how to use it, thats called a learning curve. Like learning a new skill.

I just bought a brand new, really high end laptop. Cost me big bucks and it came with Win 8.1.

I launched it and wow, talk about different!

But I can't find anything! I don't know where this and that is like Win 7.
But I have only just begun this OS journey. I will figure it out and learn how it works!!

Not trying to open a can of worms here, just trying to find out what people hate about it! :B:B

So, what are the issues with the OS itself?

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Some say they will never touch it or they hate it or it sucks or any number of other complaints.

Then there are some that say they like Win 8.1 and think its great.

So I ask - What's wrong with Windows 8.1?

Now I'm not looking for things like I can't find anything - I don't know where this or that is, that is a user issue, not a Win 8.1 issue.

I'm wanting to know what is wrong with the OS itself, and WHY it is no good to some of you. If you simply can't figure out how to use it, thats called a learning curve. Like learning a new skill.

I just bought a brand new, really high end laptop. Cost me big bucks and it came with Win 8.1.

I launched it and wow, talk about different!

But I can't find anything! I don't know where this and that is like Win 7.
But I have only just begun this OS journey. I will figure it out and learn how it works!!

Not trying to open a can of worms here, just trying to find out what people hate about it! :B:B

So, what are the issues with the OS itself?

I am typing this on my aging old trusty laptop with XP Pro. 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smkettner wrote:
Win 8 explorer does not organize my favorites very well from the start menu.
Works fine in desktop mode.

Are you talking about Internet Explorer here? I don't use IE, my browser, FireFox, works fine.

smkettner wrote:
Win 8 opens pdf in adobe instead of a browser window. Then back to the start menu when closed instead of desktop where I was.

Depends on how you have defaults setup.

smkettner wrote:
Win 8 does not seem to remember my log in and passwords very well. Ok maybe security was tightened but why as security should have been improved.

Not sure about this one, I don't have any issues with login or passwords on my 3 Win 8 devices.

smkettner wrote:
Win 8 forgets how to talk to my network printer frequently. Win 7 never.

I setup my network printer once for each of my devices and none have ever \"forgotten\" how to talk to the printer.

smkettner wrote:
Finding programs seems difficult and not as intuitive. Maybe chalk this up to the learning curve.

I don't have this issue but there are lots of 3rd party apps out there that will supply you with the traditional Start Menu.

smkettner wrote:
Too much emphasis on spending money in the app store.

How so? I have spent little to no money in the app store and have never been prompted to.

smkettner wrote:
Too much seems linked to an MSN account that I don't have and do not want... ever.

I run all of my Win 8 devices with a local account.

smkettner wrote:
Maybe it is all just a matter of learning a new system. Still I am annoyed, very annoyed. Looking forward to Win 9 as I assume it can't be worse.

I hope you won't be too disappointed but there will be a learning curve associated with the next version of Windows as well.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-04-26T20:15:37.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-04-26T20:15:37.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":81},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:1149388/message:1149399","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"Rank:rank:40":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:40","position":31,"name":"Explorer III","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:276474":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:276474","uid":276474,"login":"CA_Traveler","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2004-01-03T11:58:48.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-2.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:40"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:276474"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1149398":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1149398","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1149398":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:276474"},"id":"message:1149398","revisionNum":1,"uid":1149398,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1149388"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1149388"},"subject":"Re: Whats wrong with Windows 8.1?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1149398"},"body":"My input is that Ballmer and company fell into the trap of top dog and ignored mobile. In fact Ballmer laughed at the iPhone. Years passed patting everyone on the back until they realized how far behind mobile they had fallen. Mobile sales were sky rocking and PC sales were declining. So they decided one size fits all for windows and mobile called 8.0.

8.0/8.1 is a significant success in improved performance and reliability and includes faster boot time. But they forgot about the mouse and non touch screens. Many don't like what they did. I'm not sure what they did to 8.1 Update as I had already installed Stardock to get DWs PC into something understandable on a non touch screen PC.

We all understand touch screens for phones and tablets. But touch screens for laptops and desktops - it makes no sense. Heads rolled at MS maybe including Ballmer. JMHO

Have you looked at the horrible graphics associated with the Metro aps? I'll take my iPhone or Samsung apps for both form and function over the MS apps. However, MS has realized that apps represent a huge revenue stream so hopefully they will work this out. 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OH48Lt wrote:
Windows 8.1 is to operating systems like the 6.0 Powerstroke is to diesel engines.


How so?
That one needs an explanation for the comparison.
We know the 6.0, but what exactly in Win8?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-04-26T19:24:49.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-04-26T19:24:49.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":69},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:1149388/message:1149395","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:108257":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:108257","uid":108257,"login":"time2roll","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2005-03-21T19:03:16.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-5.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:39"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:108257"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1149394":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1149394","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1149394":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:108257"},"id":"message:1149394","revisionNum":1,"uid":1149394,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1149388"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1149388"},"subject":"Re: Whats wrong with Windows 8.1?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1149394"},"body":"Win 8 explorer does not organize my favorites very well from the start menu.
Works fine in desktop mode.

Win 8 opens pdf in adobe instead of a browser window. Then back to the start menu when closed instead of desktop where I was.

Win 8 does not seem to remember my log in and passwords very well. Ok maybe security was tightened but why as security should have been improved.

Win 8 forgets how to talk to my network printer frequently. Win 7 never.

Finding programs seems difficult and not as intuitive. Maybe chalk this up to the learning curve.

Too much emphasis on spending money in the app store.

Too much seems linked to an MSN account that I don't have and do not want... ever.

Maybe it is all just a matter of learning a new system. Still I am annoyed, very annoyed. Looking forward to Win 9 as I assume it can't be worse.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-04-26T19:23:24.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-04-26T19:23:24.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":69},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:1149388/message:1149394","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:278539":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:278539","uid":278539,"login":"MitchF150","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2002-07-13T00:40:04.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-9.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:40"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:278539"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1149393":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1149393","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1149393":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:278539"},"id":"message:1149393","revisionNum":1,"uid":1149393,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1149388"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1149388"},"subject":"Re: Whats wrong with Windows 8.1?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1149393"},"body":"Oh, yeah... Forgot about 98... That was a good one too.. ;)

Mitch","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"70","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-04-26T19:19:42.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-04-26T19:19:42.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":70},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:1149388/message:1149393","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:22653":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:22653","uid":22653,"login":"OH48Lt","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2005-01-18T05:58:58.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-12.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:22653"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1149392":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1149392","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1149392":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:22653"},"id":"message:1149392","revisionNum":1,"uid":1149392,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1149388"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1149388"},"subject":"Re: Whats wrong with Windows 8.1?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1149392"},"body":"Windows 8.1 is to operating systems like the 6.0 Powerstroke is to diesel engines.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"82","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-04-26T19:09:11.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-04-26T19:09:11.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":70},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:1149388/message:1149392","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1149391":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1149391","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1149391":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:102024"},"id":"message:1149391","revisionNum":1,"uid":1149391,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1149388"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1149388"},"subject":"Re: Whats wrong with Windows 8.1?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1149391"},"body":"
MitchF150 wrote:
So, is the next chapter in Bob's world going to involve the new computer?? :)

Mitch


You forgot Win 98, one of the most popular ever!;)

Really the only ones that were widely hated were ME and Vista. I owned both and found them to be buggy and unreliable.

My webserver, although it is down, is still running Win2K. I have a couple on XP, and now 2 on Win7.

And yeah, the next chapter will involve the new computer, as soon as I take the time to learn it! It is sitting here beside me, all shiny and new!! It's quite the machine!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-04-26T19:07:17.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-04-26T19:07:17.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":71},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:1149388/message:1149391","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:40264":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:40264","uid":40264,"login":"robsouth","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2004-06-20T20:01:18.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-9.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:40264"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1149390":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1149390","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1149390":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:40264"},"id":"message:1149390","revisionNum":1,"uid":1149390,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1149388"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1149388"},"subject":"Re: Whats wrong with Windows 8.1?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1149390"},"body":"I just hated it when, years ago, we changed from a DOS based system at work which I was very comfortable with, to a \"new and improved\" Windows system. 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