WiFi verses Powerline

alanrader wrote:
Hello, it sounds interesting. Thanks for sharing.

Thank you sir. This last exchange was about "Power over Ethernet"(POE) versus "Ethernet over Power"(EOP), I reckon.


I have shared all that I have learned on this thread and my reason for doing so is to help my 'fellow traveler'.

My landlord who owns the RV Park where I am staying is quiet satisfied and is ready for "Broadband Powerline" when our Power Company can deliver it. And I will post on that when and if it does occur.

Hello, it sounds interesting. Thanks for sharing.

Sorry for too much posting

Ended.

"Ethernet Over Power" is one of the technologies being discussed here. It is the same as "Powerline" technology.

There are many "Ethernet Over Power" consumer products available (google will show you some...). I have two of them I bought from Monoprice several years ago. They work pretty well in my home. They can be thought of as "Modems" that convert ethernet to run over the power lines in your house.

I am getting 7.4 Mbits/second on mine right now. Not great but saved me from running cat6 cable to where I needed to put my wireless access point this week for a temporary configuration.

You can't use them on power strips because the power strips do some filtering of the power which reduces or eliminates the signal.

How well they work will depend on the wiring between the two of them. Circuit breakers seem to not be a problem to them.

How well they will work in any given campground can't be known until they are tested. And the results may vary depending on where the endpoints are. And may vary depending on the brand of Ethernet Over Power equipment.

Ed

For those who may be interested. The Wifi at our park is serviced by
pole mounted APs with a range of 1.5 miles. These are directional antennas and have to be located close the main router. Obviously, I could not service every RV in the Park. So, I installed a pole mounted Range extender and covered about 70% of the guests. I had thought to continue that technique but it was getting counter productive.

So, I decided to think a bit and realized that with my park fully on PL, I did not have to have all my APs at a central location. This is a major plus and resolves a lot of issues with trees, blockages, etc. Now I can relocate my AP towers and ensure everyone gets adequate Wifi.

Will continue to report on this if there be an interest.

Bill.Satellite wrote:
AMOS33, thanks for the visit. I find the information to be very interesting and believe you have been able to wire the park with powerline devices. It sounds like a great application. Early adopters are often ridiculed for new ideas. If you have done this successfully, congratulations. Campground WiFi is notoriously bad (whether it qualifies as broadband or not) so anything that could make it more dependable, no matter the speed, would be an improvement.
I hope you don't go too far away but I certainly understand why you might. The very best to you!

Thank you sir. Our little park is ready should we obtain a bigger feed, nothing else needs to change. The park is ready for Gigabit speeds even tho we are currently limited to 'bonded DSL' at 20 Mb/s at the present. So the outlook looks bright even tho we are not providing "Broadband Powerline" services, it is still free.

Dutch_12078 wrote:

AMOS33 wrote:

America's First RV Park that offers both WiFi & Broadband Powerline (BPL) - Free!

Note that even the full 20Mb/s DSL backhaul you mentioned does not meet the FCC's 2015 definition of "Broadband". The current definition of broadband calls for a minimum 25Mb/s down and 3Mb/s up.

Thank you sir for that vital piece of information. Since my feed only allows for 20Mb/s down and 2.5Mb/s up, I shall make no further claim about "Broadband." I stand corrected.

AMOS33 wrote:

SCVJeff wrote:
That doesn't mean you can't use BPL in the park to attach to remote routers. But... if there is a transformer in the way there will need to be coupling installed

Simple solution to that sir, since the signal cannot pass through a Transformer; you just jump over them pesky Transformers using a proprietary technique just invented which I shall call etiGate.

Thanks so much RV friends for letting me post here and since it does appear this thread is dead, I shall move on.

America's First RV Park that offers both WiFi & Broadband Powerline (BPL) - Free!

THIS may be proprietary but the technique has been around for over 30 years. Thats how all the old automation gear that needed to communicate across power line phases got the job done. The pieces are all out there.

AMOS33, thanks for the visit. I find the information to be very interesting and believe you have been able to wire the park with powerline devices. It sounds like a great application. Early adopters are often ridiculed for new ideas. If you have done this successfully, congratulations. Campground WiFi is notoriously bad (whether it qualifies as broadband or not) so anything that could make it more dependable, no matter the speed, would be an improvement.
I hope you don't go too far away but I certainly understand why you might. The very best to you!