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Feb 05, 2017

Wineguard SensarPro

We are at a campground where two of the major network TV channels (NBC and CBS) are very weak. CBS won't come in until after sunset, if at all. Due to many good reviews, the other day I purchased a Wineguard SensarPro power supply to replace the original power supply for my batwing antenna (which has the wingman). I was hoping the SensarPro's gain feature would help with receiving the two weak channels (both VHF).

However, after installation the SensarPro showed no signal at all for both channels of concern. Moving the gain up incrementally to 20 did not help (possibly because it could see no signal to amplify?). I could still get most of the other channels (the stronger signal channels) that I was receiving before. All the features of the SensarPro such as scan, seek etc seemed to work, but now no signal for the above-noted channels (both VHF).

I reinstalled the old power supply and now I could receive NBC clearly and CBS was back pixellating just like it was before I installed the SensarPro.

Has anyone else noticed something similar to this with the SensarPro for weak channels.

I can see where the SensarPro's features would help with optimally pointing the antenna to get more channels but I'm not happy if it is less effective than my original power supply for pulling in weak channels. I wonder if the SensarPro introduces enough more noise to drown out weaker channels.

Or perhaps my new SensarPro is defective?

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CBS won't come in until after sunset, if at all. Due to many good reviews, the other day I purchased a Wineguard SensarPro power supply to replace the original power supply for my batwing antenna (which has the wingman). I was hoping the SensarPro's gain feature would help with receiving the two weak channels (both VHF).

However, after installation the SensarPro showed no signal at all for both channels of concern. Moving the gain up incrementally to 20 did not help (possibly because it could see no signal to amplify?). I could still get most of the other channels (the stronger signal channels) that I was receiving before. All the features of the SensarPro such as scan, seek etc seemed to work, but now no signal for the above-noted channels (both VHF).

I reinstalled the old power supply and now I could receive NBC clearly and CBS was back pixellating just like it was before I installed the SensarPro.

Has anyone else noticed something similar to this with the SensarPro for weak channels.

I can see where the SensarPro's features would help with optimally pointing the antenna to get more channels but I'm not happy if it is less effective than my original power supply for pulling in weak channels. I wonder if the SensarPro introduces enough more noise to drown out weaker channels.

Or perhaps my new SensarPro is defective?","body@stringLength":"1492","rawBody":"We are at a campground where two of the major network TV channels (NBC and CBS) are very weak. CBS won't come in until after sunset, if at all. Due to many good reviews, the other day I purchased a Wineguard SensarPro power supply to replace the original power supply for my batwing antenna (which has the wingman). I was hoping the SensarPro's gain feature would help with receiving the two weak channels (both VHF).

However, after installation the SensarPro showed no signal at all for both channels of concern. Moving the gain up incrementally to 20 did not help (possibly because it could see no signal to amplify?). I could still get most of the other channels (the stronger signal channels) that I was receiving before. All the features of the SensarPro such as scan, seek etc seemed to work, but now no signal for the above-noted channels (both VHF).

I reinstalled the old power supply and now I could receive NBC clearly and CBS was back pixellating just like it was before I installed the SensarPro.

Has anyone else noticed something similar to this with the SensarPro for weak channels.

I can see where the SensarPro's features would help with optimally pointing the antenna to get more channels but I'm not happy if it is less effective than my original power supply for pulling in weak channels. I wonder if the SensarPro introduces enough more noise to drown out weaker channels.

Or perhaps my new SensarPro is defective?","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-02-05T09:30:21.000-08:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2535329_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":3105},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"searchSnippet":"We are at a campground where two of the major network TV channels (NBC and CBS) are very weak. 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Wineguard SensarPro","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2535342"},"body":"Are you sure it's VHF? Channel 2 on the TV does not mean it is broadcast on channel 2 any longer. Most digital programming has move to the UHF frequencies with requires the Sensar IV or the older Winegard with the Wingman add-on.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-02-05T15:56:21.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-02-05T15:56:21.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":481},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:2535329/message:2535342","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"231","rawBody":"Are you sure it's VHF? Channel 2 on the TV does not mean it is broadcast on channel 2 any longer. Most digital programming has move to the UHF frequencies with requires the Sensar IV or the older Winegard with the Wingman add-on.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2535342_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2535341":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2535341","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2535341":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:314225"},"id":"message:2535341","revisionNum":1,"uid":2535341,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2535329"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2535329"},"subject":"Re: Wineguard SensarPro","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2535341"},"body":"Thanks all for responding. I reinstalled the SensarPro today. It's a neat little device and it seems to be doing everything it is supposed to do except for not seeing the two weak VHF channels.

All the other channels I get here are UHF and according to TV Fool the two VHF channels are the weakest of the bunch. Most all of the UHF channels still come in on the TV even when I set the gain on the SensarPro to 1. That drops the signal level for these stations considerably but they still come in even with signal readings in the 30's.

Another issue that may be pertinent is that one of the VHF channels broadcasts on Real RF 12 and the other on Real RF 13. Perhaps there's some adjacent channel interference going on that the SensarPro can't deal with?

And if there are strong FM stations etc in the area I suppose that could further affect things.

The weak VHF signals just don't seem to get past the SensarPro so the TV itself is not part of the situation.

At this point I'm thinking that my SensarPro probably isn't defective per se and that the device just may have some issues with weak VHF stations in general or in resolving the specific channel situation at my location or a combination of both.

I bought the SensarPro hoping to solve a specific problem at this location regarding the reception of NBC and CBS. With my original power supply I can receive NBC anytime and receive CBS most evenings. With the SensarPro I cannot watch either channel at any time. Now to see if the RV dealer will accept a return.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-02-05T14:43:28.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-02-05T14:43:28.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":481},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:2535329/message:2535341","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1584","rawBody":"Thanks all for responding. I reinstalled the SensarPro today. It's a neat little device and it seems to be doing everything it is supposed to do except for not seeing the two weak VHF channels.

All the other channels I get here are UHF and according to TV Fool the two VHF channels are the weakest of the bunch. Most all of the UHF channels still come in on the TV even when I set the gain on the SensarPro to 1. That drops the signal level for these stations considerably but they still come in even with signal readings in the 30's.

Another issue that may be pertinent is that one of the VHF channels broadcasts on Real RF 12 and the other on Real RF 13. Perhaps there's some adjacent channel interference going on that the SensarPro can't deal with?

And if there are strong FM stations etc in the area I suppose that could further affect things.

The weak VHF signals just don't seem to get past the SensarPro so the TV itself is not part of the situation.

At this point I'm thinking that my SensarPro probably isn't defective per se and that the device just may have some issues with weak VHF stations in general or in resolving the specific channel situation at my location or a combination of both.

I bought the SensarPro hoping to solve a specific problem at this location regarding the reception of NBC and CBS. With my original power supply I can receive NBC anytime and receive CBS most evenings. With the SensarPro I cannot watch either channel at any time. Now to see if the RV dealer will accept a return.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2535341_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2535340":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2535340","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2535340":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:314225"},"id":"message:2535340","revisionNum":1,"uid":2535340,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2535329"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2535329"},"subject":"Re: Wineguard SensarPro","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2535340"},"body":"
wa8yxm wrote:
Dutch_12078 wrote:
I suspect you may have a defective SensarPro. Ours has worked quite well in bringing in signals in some previously problematic areas. In some locations, I've even had to turn down the gain to keep from over driving the TV.


I see 3 possibilities. And that is #1

#2 is you hooked it up wrong (Wrong coax connections)

#3 is you hooked the 12 volt wires backwards way way down the page I might add

My Expierence, like others was the reverse

Stations I could barely get.. Strong and clear now

Stations I could not even see, Strong and clear now

Some stations I could not see.. Iffy.. but hey, before I could not even tell they were there.


No on #2 and No on #3. I'm also thinking now probably no on #1.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-02-05T14:42:38.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-02-05T14:42:38.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":481},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:2535329/message:2535340","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"879","rawBody":"
wa8yxm wrote:
Dutch_12078 wrote:
I suspect you may have a defective SensarPro. Ours has worked quite well in bringing in signals in some previously problematic areas. In some locations, I've even had to turn down the gain to keep from over driving the TV.


I see 3 possibilities. And that is #1

#2 is you hooked it up wrong (Wrong coax connections)

#3 is you hooked the 12 volt wires backwards way way down the page I might add

My Expierence, like others was the reverse

Stations I could barely get.. Strong and clear now

Stations I could not even see, Strong and clear now

Some stations I could not see.. Iffy.. but hey, before I could not even tell they were there.


No on #2 and No on #3. I'm also thinking now probably no on #1.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2535340_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2535339":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2535339","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2535339":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:314225"},"id":"message:2535339","revisionNum":1,"uid":2535339,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2535329"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2535329"},"subject":"Re: Wineguard SensarPro","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2535339"},"body":"
samven1 wrote:
A common problem with remote amps (those not built into the head) is that the small loss of signal from the antenna thru the coax and connectors is all thats needed to put weak signals below the noise threshold. In many cases amps actually hurt your reception because they add their own noise on to the signal. Bad amps can add 3 or 4 db and really good amps still add 1 or 2. In general the only time an amp is needed is to overcome loss from long cable runs and splitters and should be before those losses happen not after.

Yes, this is exactly what I meant by the device possibly adding noise.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-02-05T14:40:51.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-02-05T14:40:51.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":481},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:2535329/message:2535339","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"646","rawBody":"
samven1 wrote:
A common problem with remote amps (those not built into the head) is that the small loss of signal from the antenna thru the coax and connectors is all thats needed to put weak signals below the noise threshold. In many cases amps actually hurt your reception because they add their own noise on to the signal. Bad amps can add 3 or 4 db and really good amps still add 1 or 2. In general the only time an amp is needed is to overcome loss from long cable runs and splitters and should be before those losses happen not after.

Yes, this is exactly what I meant by the device possibly adding noise.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2535339_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"Rank:rank:40":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:40","position":31,"name":"Explorer III","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:2884":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:2884","uid":2884,"login":"wa8yxm","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2006-07-04T17:54:30.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-6.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:40"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:2884"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2535338":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2535338","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2535338":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:2884"},"id":"message:2535338","revisionNum":1,"uid":2535338,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2535329"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2535329"},"subject":"Re: Wineguard SensarPro","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2535338"},"body":"
Dutch_12078 wrote:
I suspect you may have a defective SensarPro. Ours has worked quite well in bringing in signals in some previously problematic areas. In some locations, I've even had to turn down the gain to keep from over driving the TV.


I see 3 possibilities. And that is #1

#2 is you hooked it up wrong (Wrong coax connections)

#3 is you hooked the 12 volt wires backwards way way down the page I might add

My Expierence, like others was the reverse

Stations I could barely get.. Strong and clear now

Stations I could not even see, Strong and clear now

Some stations I could not see.. Iffy.. but hey, before I could not even tell they were there.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-02-05T14:00:17.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-02-05T14:00:17.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":195},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:2535329/message:2535338","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"760","rawBody":"
Dutch_12078 wrote:
I suspect you may have a defective SensarPro. Ours has worked quite well in bringing in signals in some previously problematic areas. In some locations, I've even had to turn down the gain to keep from over driving the TV.


I see 3 possibilities. And that is #1

#2 is you hooked it up wrong (Wrong coax connections)

#3 is you hooked the 12 volt wires backwards way way down the page I might add

My Expierence, like others was the reverse

Stations I could barely get.. Strong and clear now

Stations I could not even see, Strong and clear now

Some stations I could not see.. 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In many cases amps actually hurt your reception because they add their own noise on to the signal. Bad amps can add 3 or 4 db and really good amps still add 1 or 2. 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In many cases amps actually hurt your reception because they add their own noise on to the signal. Bad amps can add 3 or 4 db and really good amps still add 1 or 2. 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The directions recommend starting low and slowly increasing thee gain.

20 is likely to over drive the TV.

Also make sure the center conductor is long enough and no shorts.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-02-05T13:34:32.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-02-05T13:34:32.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":151},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:2535329/message:2535336","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"306","rawBody":"I mention the gain because I have scanned, turn the gain up, rescanned, and gotten fewer channels.

The directions recommend starting low and slowly increasing thee gain.

20 is likely to over drive the TV.

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It's interesting that your VHF only channels have dropped off when the Sensar is in-line and that's a little concerning. It's certinaly possible that the Sensar has no or negative gain on VHF. This is obviously not a connector problem and I'll look at the output of mine once I get back into the LA area where I have a good selection of VHF to look at. It certainly should not do that but everyone has put all their attention into UHF, thinking VHF is dead. That ain't the case

BTW- it's also possible that you have strong TV or FM transmitters nearby (?), and those can easily swamp the Sensar amp. Don't forget you are driving one amp in the head into the Sensar's amp. Not the bast thing to do anyway, but gaining up an already swamped amp then overdriving the TV can get ugly.. I have this problem at one of our camp sites","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-02-05T11:14:13.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-02-05T11:14:13.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":151},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:2535329/message:2535335","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1001","rawBody":"First of all KUDOS for realizing that an amplifier can only amplify what it can see, it's not a miricle worker and it's amazing how often that's missed.

It's interesting that your VHF only channels have dropped off when the Sensar is in-line and that's a little concerning. It's certinaly possible that the Sensar has no or negative gain on VHF. This is obviously not a connector problem and I'll look at the output of mine once I get back into the LA area where I have a good selection of VHF to look at. It certainly should not do that but everyone has put all their attention into UHF, thinking VHF is dead. That ain't the case

BTW- it's also possible that you have strong TV or FM transmitters nearby (?), and those can easily swamp the Sensar amp. Don't forget you are driving one amp in the head into the Sensar's amp. Not the bast thing to do anyway, but gaining up an already swamped amp then overdriving the TV can get ugly.. 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If I use the channel function and select the broadcast RF channels for the two stations of concern, it just displays the two hyphens (no signal) in the signal box and, of course, no picture on the TV. Even with the gain at 20, the strongest channel here will still show picture on the TV so I don't think the two weak channels would over drive the TV, but I will try all suggestions.

I'm thinking that the SensarPro just doesn't pass on any signal to be amplified as long as it shows no signal in the signal box ie it just doesn't \"see\" the weak signals.

The fact that the weak signals get to the TV with the old power supply would suggest that connections etc are likely okay but I will check all.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-02-05T10:16:26.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-02-05T10:16:26.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":151},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:2535329/message:2535333","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"812","rawBody":"The peaking function works and it displays the signal level for all the stronger channels. If I use the channel function and select the broadcast RF channels for the two stations of concern, it just displays the two hyphens (no signal) in the signal box and, of course, no picture on the TV. Even with the gain at 20, the strongest channel here will still show picture on the TV so I don't think the two weak channels would over drive the TV, but I will try all suggestions.

I'm thinking that the SensarPro just doesn't pass on any signal to be amplified as long as it shows no signal in the signal box ie it just doesn't \"see\" the weak signals.

The fact that the weak signals get to the TV with the old power supply would suggest that connections etc are likely okay but I will check all.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2535333_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/community/NavbarDropdownToggle-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/community/NavbarDropdownToggle-1741694506000","value":{"ariaLabelClosed":"Press the down arrow to open the menu"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1741694506000","value":{"escalationMessage":"Escalated to Salesforce by {username} on {date}","viewDetails":"View Details","modalTitle":"Case Details","escalatedBy":"Escalated by: ","escalatedOn":"Escalated on: ","caseNumber":"Case Number: ","status":"Status: ","lastUpdateDate":"Last Update: ","automaticEscalation":"automatic escalation","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1741694506000","value":{"authorName":"View Profile: {author}","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1741694506000","value":{"rankName":"{rankName}","userRank":"Author rank {rankName}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1741694506000","value":{"postTime":"Published: {time}","lastPublishTime":"Last Update: {time}","conversation.lastPostingActivityTime":"Last posting activity time: {time}","conversation.lastPostTime":"Last post time: {time}","moderationData.rejectTime":"Rejected time: {time}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1741694506000","value":{"solved":"Solved"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1741694506000","value":{"noSubject":"(no subject)"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1741694506000","value":{"showMessageBody":"Show More","mentionsErrorTitle":"{mentionsType, select, board {Board} user {User} message {Message} other {}} No Longer Available","mentionsErrorMessage":"The {mentionsType} you are trying to view has been removed from the community.","videoProcessing":"Video is being processed. 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