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Grim_Knight
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Dec 25, 2013

College Student & Full Time"RV" Living

I'm a full time college student as the thread title says, but I'm looking to purchase and convert a Ford Econoline style cargo van into a mini-RV. I live in Pierce county Washington but I'm going to be going to school in Olympia. I'm not interested in commuting on a daily basis so I've been planning on how to live in Olympia during the week and then return back home for the weekend.

My thoughts are this...

#1 purchase a used but decent condition Ford Econoline cargo van

#2 install insulation in the walls and on the ceiling, cover the insulation with plywood and then cover the plywood with inexpensive carpet tiles for aesthetics. Insulation LINK Carpeting LINK

#3 for the floor of the van, I'm looking into something simple such as thick rubber tiles similar to what one would put inside a home gym. This would not only provide insulation, it would provide a comfortable and easily installed (and removed) floor to the van.

#4 for a bed, I purchased a futon style metal frame loveseat where the arms fold down to make a twin size bed. Add to that a nice sleeping bag, blankets and even some memory foam mats and I have a nice comfortable place to sit and sleep.

#5 for storage, I have some welded metal modular shelves that I can put in the van up against one of the walls which would be attached to with some sort of straps to keep them stationary for obvious reasons. I would also purchase some small bungee cords that can be attached to each shelf to hold down items stored on them such as clothing and misc. "camping" items.

#6 for cooking, I was thinking something simple like a propane camping stove with a 5 gallon bulk tank attached via a 6 foot hose or longer. This would also allow for a propane heater if needed.

#7 I found an inexpensive 12v DC powered cooler that is big enough to hold about 6 2liter bottles. this should be more then enough room to store any perishables such as milk or sandwich meat for use throughout the week. LINK

#8 for lighting, I found some swiveling LED lights bars that can be mounted to the walls LINK

#9 Electrical power is my biggest problem at this point... I found an inexpensive 3500watt gas generator LINK, and I was thinking of adding some deep cycle AGM batteries LINK. My skills with regards to putting these items to practical use are a bit lacking but I understand the basic concepts. I know I am going to need a battery charger and an inverter. Since my power requirements are not super high, I think I found a charger/inverter combo unit that would suit my needs. LINK

I just don't know all the ins and outs of hooking up the various items needed to provide the needed power for my day to day needs. I just need enough power to handle my laptop for school, the lights I want to install, the cooler and my CPAP machine for when I sleep.

As for some other things I may need, I was thinking of throwing in a simple camping porta-potty and a couple 5 gallon containers for storing fresh water. Other then that, there really shouldn't be much else I would "need". The idea is to turn the van into a place where I can sleep without having to make the commute on a daily basis to and from school. I can get meals at the grocery store, dine out, or even eat at the college. As for personal hygiene, I have a membership at the YMCA so I can get showers and stuff there. I can wash clothes on the weekends when I head home and I can be a bit wasteful and use disposable plates and stuff for when I choose to eat in the van.

I know this is a bit long winded, but I was looking for experienced views regarding such matters so as to make the process go smoother once I acquire the van. I know the first thing I will be purchasing after getting the van will be the generator so that I can have immediate power for such things as power tools needed to do the work of installing the various items I am looking to install. I might even camp out in the parking lot of Lowes or Home Depot during the day while I do all the work so that if I need supplies, I can simply walk in, buy what I need and then walk right out to the van.

Thanks for your time and I welcome all suggestions.

P.S. Merry Christmas!

139 Replies

  • Back in the '70's I had a custom van. Don't know where it is now, maybe it's a refeer. Wish I had it. Best of luck.
  • The hardest part you will find is parking. You want to "stealth" camp but you also mention a generator, lights, cooking, and a porta-potty. Using any of those, you will be noticed. It is illegal in many places to live in a van.

    For an indication of what it is actually like, I suggest you read Ken Ilgunas, who actually did it. Here is an article that summarizes it.

    I wish you the best of luck.
  • 2chiefsRus wrote:
    It sounds like you have given this a lot of thought and if you really want to make it work, I'm sure you can do so. There are people in the world living with much less than you will have. I'm just not sure you will be able to achieve the stealth situation you are wanting if you have a generator running outside.


    The "stealth" is for when I'm not around the van such as when I'm in class or parked somewhere and away from the van. Where I am parked and actually at the van, I don't care if people know that I'm camping in it.

    Say I'm going to class and parked at site A, get done with class, go and park at site B to get something to eat or whatever. Then when I'm actually in the van for the night or whatever, I move on to site C. At Site C, I'm not worried about somebody knowing I'm there because, I'm there. But when I'm at sites A or B, I'm not with the van so I don't want people knowing it's being used as a mini-RV. If the van is fairly nondescript, it would be hard to tell it apart from any other similar looking van. I would never camp out while I'm at the college or whatever.
  • I say you should do exactly as outlined. The impractically of the plan is oblivious to you; trying to dissuade someone already determined to proceed is fruitless.
  • It sounds like you have given this a lot of thought and if you really want to make it work, I'm sure you can do so. There are people in the world living with much less than you will have. I'm just not sure you will be able to achieve the stealth situation you are wanting if you have a generator running outside.
  • Jim Shoe wrote:
    I say go for it. Frankly, I'm getting tired of trying without success to talk young college students out of wasting their money on a project they know nothing about.


    Heh... I'm not young... I'm 35 years old. Reason I'm going to college is because I am disabled and no longer able to do the work I use to do. I need a new line of work and thus need new education.

    And regarding wasting money, I don't see this as a waste. I see it as a way to get some of the functionality of an RV but still keep the functionality of the cargo van. That's why I'm not looking to do any permanent install of items inside the van. The bed is a prebuilt metal frame unit that can be taken out easily. The shelves are the same. I have a general idea of how to "install" everything and I'm even trying to come up with a "floor plan" if you will. But my biggest problem is that I know very little other then the absolute basics regarding electrical systems.

    As I linked above, I believe I picked out decent yet inexpensive items that will suit my needs. 1-2 high capacity AGM batteries linked in parallel and mounted inside a basic container. An all in 1 inverter/charger unit capable of providing me with AC power needed to run just a couple of items that I obviously need AC power for. The inverter/charger would allow me to charge the batteries off the generator or I could simply plug it in with an extension cord and charge the batteries off "shore" power. I wouldn't even be doing any changes to the pre-existing wiring of the van itself. I am thinking that if I keep the batteries and inverter/charger close together, I won't need to run any wiring very far and I'm not looking to do any hard wiring of any electrical items.

    I'm not interested in installing any form of running water such as a shower or sink or toilet so I won't need a grey water or black water tank. All I need is something for fresh water mostly for drinking or cooking. With disposable dishes, I wouldn't need to wash anything. Since I'm looking to purchase the van around April (start of spring quarter) I don't need to worry too much about making the van cold weather ready just yet so I probably won't need a heater.

    The whole idea here is to actually save money as well as wear and tear on the vehicle by not having to commute on a daily basis. I won't have to worry about doing a whole bunch of grocery shopping either because I'll only be feeding myself during the week and only buying exactly what I need for a few days at a time so food won't go to waste. This also has the added advantage of putting space between my best friend (roommate) and I for a few days at a time so we don't grate on each other's nerves. And since most of my belongings will be in storage, I will only need the things that I absolutely need for a week at a time.

    I've also thought about a couple things I can do that would make living in a van a bit more comfortable as well...

    I thought about buying a folding outdoor chair (one of those camping chairs with a cup holder in the armrest) and one of those folding shelter things. Simply open up the back doors of the van, set up the shelter so that it covers just the back of the van and then set up my chair outside the back of the van. Instant back yard with a porch! This would not only provide me with shade for when the weather was nice, but it would let me get out of the van even if it was raining so I wouldn't feel cooped up inside. Or I could go even more simple and just use a few tent poles, bungee cords, and a tarp for the same effect.
  • I say go for it. Frankly, I'm getting tired of trying without success to talk young college students out of wasting their money on a project they know nothing about.
  • I thought about purchasing a used RV. I decided against it for a number of reasons.

    #1 the starting cost. With my idea for a van, I can get the whole thing up and operational as an mini-RV for under $5000 including insurance, registration, tabs and all the supplies needed to actually turn the van into an RV. I already have alot of the stuff that I am going to put in it. The starting cost for even a cheap RV in my area is more then I can reasonably afford.

    #2 the van would serve as more then just an RV. I can easily remove most of the items inside and use the van as a dedicated cargo van. My idea is to make everything modular. The batteries and power supplies would be installed in something like milk crates so that they can be easily removed. Simply disconnect a few cables and out it goes.

    #3 stealth value. I don't want most people to even know that I'm living in the van for security reasons. I don't want anything that I may have of value to become a target. Though I will be in fairly close proximity to the van most of the time, it's when I'm in class and such that is the most concern. With it looking like a plain old cargo van, it has the general appearance of a utility vehicle. I might even look into purchasing a used fleet van from somebody like comcast or a local municipality. Ideally, I would even purchase a van that doesn't even have windows anywhere except the 2 doors up front or the windshield.
  • You might want to consider a small used Class C. Will keep you from having to buy all the extra stuff and doing the work. Plus you will have a shower and toilet there.