Fighting zoning ordinances that hurt RV owners

A1ARealtorRick wrote:

way2roll wrote:

A1ARealtorRick wrote:

way2roll wrote:

A1ARealtorRick wrote:

way2roll wrote:
This is an ordinance in our HOA - one I am not happy about and was changed after we moved here. We actually have boat storage in our neighborhood but RV's aren't permitted. We were told when we bought a lot here we could store our RV there - lied to basically. Anyway, the rule is that it can be in your drive for less than 24 hrs. But some folks do it for 2-3 days until someone complains. I've asked for an exception once for 3 days while we had family visiting to use it as a spare bedroom and it was denied. So now I don't ask for permission. I do what I want and ask for forgiveness later. There is an exception in cases of an extended power outage - like after a hurricane. I miss our old property. Had 6 acres and could store the Rv where I could see it.

If the ordinance was changed AFTER you moved there, were you able to have your say at the HOA meeting that was held when the matter was discussed and voted upon? I would imagine you did. And, relying on a verbal representation and basing your purchase on that is, well, just plain foolish. Sorry, just calling it as I see it.

Well assumptions without facts makes you - well, wrong. We went through a builder who brought down the lot and built the home and transferred to us. During that process the builder brought down enough lots to have controlling interest in the HOA. We technically weren't the homeowners then, the builder was. The timing was that the annual HOA meeting was held while the builder was building the house and thus we had no say and didn't even know. The family that owned the land was in control when we started the deal, when we were ready to build they sold all the lots to the builder. The process was in flux while the rules were changed and we weren't included. Anyway, long story short, we were told one things when we started the process and by the time we finished we had no idea ownership changed hands and thus the rules. By the time we signed the ink we were too personally and financially invested to die on that hill. But, had we known the rules had changed before they started the build, we would not have gone through with it. In various meetings since, several homeowners - including myself have brought this up in the HOA but not enough to sway a vote. Anyway, get the facts before you try and flame someone.

OK, now that I have all the facts that were left out of your previous post(s), here's a suggestion you might not have considered. MOVE!

Been on here less than 60 days and making all kinds of friends aren't you? Here's a suggestion, stop being a pompous, condescending a$$. I've seen a few of your posts over the past few days, none of which have been very helpful. Contrary they've done nothing but pi$$ people off. I assume by your title you are a realtor. I'd guess you'd have better people skills. If you want to talk further PM me. Happy to talk to you in person. Otherwise, add something to the forum or move on.

You and I just disagree on a few things. It's OK, really. Many people on this forum disagree. It's all part of the give and take. At least you won't see me having to use $$$ signs to spell words :)
It's all good. You'll get over it. I have no need to PM you, so just "move on" ;)

That's what I thought...

way2roll wrote:

A1ARealtorRick wrote:

way2roll wrote:

A1ARealtorRick wrote:

way2roll wrote:
This is an ordinance in our HOA - one I am not happy about and was changed after we moved here. We actually have boat storage in our neighborhood but RV's aren't permitted. We were told when we bought a lot here we could store our RV there - lied to basically. Anyway, the rule is that it can be in your drive for less than 24 hrs. But some folks do it for 2-3 days until someone complains. I've asked for an exception once for 3 days while we had family visiting to use it as a spare bedroom and it was denied. So now I don't ask for permission. I do what I want and ask for forgiveness later. There is an exception in cases of an extended power outage - like after a hurricane. I miss our old property. Had 6 acres and could store the Rv where I could see it.

If the ordinance was changed AFTER you moved there, were you able to have your say at the HOA meeting that was held when the matter was discussed and voted upon? I would imagine you did. And, relying on a verbal representation and basing your purchase on that is, well, just plain foolish. Sorry, just calling it as I see it.

Well assumptions without facts makes you - well, wrong. We went through a builder who brought down the lot and built the home and transferred to us. During that process the builder brought down enough lots to have controlling interest in the HOA. We technically weren't the homeowners then, the builder was. The timing was that the annual HOA meeting was held while the builder was building the house and thus we had no say and didn't even know. The family that owned the land was in control when we started the deal, when we were ready to build they sold all the lots to the builder. The process was in flux while the rules were changed and we weren't included. Anyway, long story short, we were told one things when we started the process and by the time we finished we had no idea ownership changed hands and thus the rules. By the time we signed the ink we were too personally and financially invested to die on that hill. But, had we known the rules had changed before they started the build, we would not have gone through with it. In various meetings since, several homeowners - including myself have brought this up in the HOA but not enough to sway a vote. Anyway, get the facts before you try and flame someone.

OK, now that I have all the facts that were left out of your previous post(s), here's a suggestion you might not have considered. MOVE!

Been on here less than 60 days and making all kinds of friends aren't you? Here's a suggestion, stop being a pompous, condescending a$$. I've seen a few of your posts over the past few days, none of which have been very helpful. Contrary they've done nothing but pi$$ people off. I assume by your title you are a realtor. I'd guess you'd have better people skills. If you want to talk further PM me. Happy to talk to you in person. Otherwise, add something to the forum or move on.

You and I just disagree on a few things. It's OK, really. Many people on this forum disagree. It's all part of the give and take. At least you won't see me having to use $$$ signs to spell words :)
It's all good. You'll get over it. I have no need to PM you, so just "move on" ;)

aligators are ornary because they got all them teeth but no toothbrush

A1ARealtorRick wrote:

way2roll wrote:

A1ARealtorRick wrote:

way2roll wrote:
This is an ordinance in our HOA - one I am not happy about and was changed after we moved here. We actually have boat storage in our neighborhood but RV's aren't permitted. We were told when we bought a lot here we could store our RV there - lied to basically. Anyway, the rule is that it can be in your drive for less than 24 hrs. But some folks do it for 2-3 days until someone complains. I've asked for an exception once for 3 days while we had family visiting to use it as a spare bedroom and it was denied. So now I don't ask for permission. I do what I want and ask for forgiveness later. There is an exception in cases of an extended power outage - like after a hurricane. I miss our old property. Had 6 acres and could store the Rv where I could see it.

If the ordinance was changed AFTER you moved there, were you able to have your say at the HOA meeting that was held when the matter was discussed and voted upon? I would imagine you did. And, relying on a verbal representation and basing your purchase on that is, well, just plain foolish. Sorry, just calling it as I see it.

Well assumptions without facts makes you - well, wrong. We went through a builder who brought down the lot and built the home and transferred to us. During that process the builder brought down enough lots to have controlling interest in the HOA. We technically weren't the homeowners then, the builder was. The timing was that the annual HOA meeting was held while the builder was building the house and thus we had no say and didn't even know. The family that owned the land was in control when we started the deal, when we were ready to build they sold all the lots to the builder. The process was in flux while the rules were changed and we weren't included. Anyway, long story short, we were told one things when we started the process and by the time we finished we had no idea ownership changed hands and thus the rules. By the time we signed the ink we were too personally and financially invested to die on that hill. But, had we known the rules had changed before they started the build, we would not have gone through with it. In various meetings since, several homeowners - including myself have brought this up in the HOA but not enough to sway a vote. Anyway, get the facts before you try and flame someone.

OK, now that I have all the facts that were left out of your previous post(s), here's a suggestion you might not have considered. MOVE!

Been on here less than 60 days and making all kinds of friends aren't you? Here's a suggestion, stop being a pompous, condescending a$$. I've seen a few of your posts over the past few days, none of which have been very helpful. Contrary they've done nothing but pi$$ people off. I assume by your title you are a realtor. I'd guess you'd have better people skills. If you want to talk further PM me. Happy to talk to you in person. Otherwise, add something to the forum or move on.

afidel wrote:

cptqueeg wrote:
I bought a home in an HOA w strict rules so the place never becomes an eyesore. It's a hassle but I deal with it.

The next town to the south has boats, and rvs parked everywhere and it's horrid.

In another area, my buddy bought a 1 acre lot w no restrictions and he built the garagemahal to live in. It works for him but doesn't do justice to the beautiful, classic low country brick homes that he has around him. Nothing like having a concrete driveway encircle the house (like a moat) so you call pull through w truck and 21' center console.

It's SO horrid, people using the property they own to store legal vehicles that they own, get me my smelling salts. I guess I'm in favor of some HOAs if it keeps busybodies like you from petitioning city councils to pass MORE regulations! Seriously, unless someone's causing a public health problem or presenting an attractive nuisance my attitude is do what you want with your property. As long as there aren't consequences on MY property it's no big deal (and in one case even though it has worsened the flooding in my yard I haven't complained because it keeps his driveway from washing out every few years).

There isn't one thing I said to deserve the response you made, so you can take your high and mighty ASSUMPTIONS about me and shove them. My comments referred to HOA's not a municipality.

First of all I'm not a busybody - I bought where I wanted to avoid people parking their stuff on the public streets, living in RV's, and on their lawns blocking the view of intersections, etc. I'm happy for them as the HORRID appearance keeps property taxes down along w their home values. In the end they are reducing the number of potential buyers for their homes and the selling price.

Secondly I never said I was in favor of or participating in any actions inside or outside of an HOA tightening any restrictions private property.

trouble is you get people like my BIL. Who has been fighting the city for years.
He thinks it is perfectly fine to pile his driveway, yard and where ever he can find, with junk trailers, rusted farm tractors, and junk of every kind and description. And he uses the same argument. He has rights, it is his property, he can do what he wants. Strangely he never considers his neighbors or their rights.

Many times laws are passed because of someone like him, but it affects the rest of us

way2roll wrote:

A1ARealtorRick wrote:

way2roll wrote:
This is an ordinance in our HOA - one I am not happy about and was changed after we moved here. We actually have boat storage in our neighborhood but RV's aren't permitted. We were told when we bought a lot here we could store our RV there - lied to basically. Anyway, the rule is that it can be in your drive for less than 24 hrs. But some folks do it for 2-3 days until someone complains. I've asked for an exception once for 3 days while we had family visiting to use it as a spare bedroom and it was denied. So now I don't ask for permission. I do what I want and ask for forgiveness later. There is an exception in cases of an extended power outage - like after a hurricane. I miss our old property. Had 6 acres and could store the Rv where I could see it.

If the ordinance was changed AFTER you moved there, were you able to have your say at the HOA meeting that was held when the matter was discussed and voted upon? I would imagine you did. And, relying on a verbal representation and basing your purchase on that is, well, just plain foolish. Sorry, just calling it as I see it.

Well assumptions without facts makes you - well, wrong. We went through a builder who brought down the lot and built the home and transferred to us. During that process the builder brought down enough lots to have controlling interest in the HOA. We technically weren't the homeowners then, the builder was. The timing was that the annual HOA meeting was held while the builder was building the house and thus we had no say and didn't even know. The family that owned the land was in control when we started the deal, when we were ready to build they sold all the lots to the builder. The process was in flux while the rules were changed and we weren't included. Anyway, long story short, we were told one things when we started the process and by the time we finished we had no idea ownership changed hands and thus the rules. By the time we signed the ink we were too personally and financially invested to die on that hill. But, had we known the rules had changed before they started the build, we would not have gone through with it. In various meetings since, several homeowners - including myself have brought this up in the HOA but not enough to sway a vote. Anyway, get the facts before you try and flame someone.

OK, now that I have all the facts that were left out of your previous post(s), here's a suggestion you might not have considered. MOVE!

we do get a 4 day grace period though so boat and camper sit side by each a few days around camping trips while we pack/cleanup

we are allowed 1 apr30-nov 1. my boat and my camper share the spot the other lives in the back lot at work. come nov 1 ill likely wait for a warning on the boat (there are campers and boats all down my street. the launch is less than a mile away) and if they get away with it so will I. If not the boat will join the camper at work on go in to storage depending on how much the owners like me at the time.

Use to live in a neighborhood with very strict HOA. At the time we had a pop-up camper which we stored on our property out in the middle of nowhere where we eventually built our home. A couple days before and after a camping trip we would park the camper in the driveway to prep for the trip and then cleanup afterwards. Every time we did this we got letters from the HOA complaining. The person who complained to the HOA owned an ice cream truck that he parked on the road in front of his house 365 days a year. So it was OK for his ice cream truck to sit there every day on the road but not for my camper on the driveway for a couple days before and after a trip. The HOA controlled your property, however, the roads were county roads, so the HOA had no control of the public road where he parked. As long as he could fire up the engine on the ice cream truck when someone complained he was good. So he kept the battery hooked up to shore power 365 days a year to make sure he could crank her up on demand. The guy owned at least one gas station where he could have parked it. He knew the rules and complained about everybody. When my wife moved into that house she got a complaint one day after she moved in about her grass being too high, not a good sign.